Calling all Vandersteen Fans


A little over a year ago I owned he 1Cis for a short time. While I enjoyed many aspects of the speaker, I found their top-end was a bit ripe and sibilant, with multiple amps. I ended up having to attenuate the treble by 1.5db in order to enjoy them at all.

Lately I've been thinking about how well those speakers produced a realistic decay of instruments, the likes of which I haven't encountered in any other speakers. I'm wanting to give Vandersteens another chance and am considering the 2CE SigIIs, however, it appears they and the 3As have the same tweeter as the 1Cis. That and the measurements in the Stereophile review give me pause. I suppose it could be that I didn't allow the 1Cis enough break-in, or that I was actually hearing upper midrange distortion from their 8" midbass driver

I'm soliciting input from those very familiar with the brand. Would you say the 2 Sig IIs produce a warmer balance than the 1Cis? Do they in-fact share the same exact tweeter? 

Is a 100 watt/ch amp enough to drive 2CEs to satisfying levels in a 26×15' room?








helomech
Why sweat it just fix it
The only mistake you are making now is to not having the truck turnaround. Re-route is easy
Likely not broken in yet. Bases filled? Ask Questions?
How far out into the room? Bi-wired w solid core
Tilt back? Wider spacing
I’ll bet we can make em work amazingly well. Best JohnnyR

Why sweat it just fix it
The only mistake you are making now is to not having the truck turnaround. Re-route is easy
Likely not broken in yet. Bases filled? Ask Questions?
How far out into the room? Bi-wired w solid core
Tilt back? Wider spacing
I’ll bet we can make em work amazingly well. Best JohnnyR

Bases were filled with a mixture of lead shot and kitty litter. They were placed approximately 45" into the room (at acoustic center) based on the manual’s recommendations, but I tried a few inches fore and aft of that as well. I also tried many rake configurations in addition to the graph’s recommendation of 1/2." They were equidistant to the forward wall within 1mm of each other. Distance to the side walls was over 3’ for each speaker, though not equal distances as was advised by the manual. They were bi-wired with AQ Type 4 cable.

I could possibly have the truck turn around, but based on what I’ve already tried, I’m not confident enough that I could achieve what I’m seeking to risk another $280 hit in shipping charges if I can’t make em work. What really makes me question their compatibility is that I couldn’t get the midrange to come forward regardless of what I tried. Even when I boosted the mids by a couple decibels, the midrange remained very recessed in the mix. The midrange of my 2-way Advents was so much more clear and delineable that I was shaking my head in confoundment. It’s ok though, this whole venture has at least quenched my curiosity. If anything, it’s helped me realize how content I should be with my old setup. At least I know the 1Cis work well in my system so maybe I’ll pick up a pair of those again someday.
Vandersteen 2CE Sigs are just not for everybody. End of story.....Just like what I own......just not for everybody......
Sorry to hear as you want everyone to be happy with their systems.  Wish Johnny had a shot at seeing what was up.  I know the magic he's done in my room with both teh Treo's and then Quatro's.....good luck going forward.
I would say that each speaker 3 feet in from the side wall were too close together and too far out from the front wall for proper power response.Like I said have the truck re-route and I'll pay half if we don't succeed.  simple, compliance and call me asap
                      Best JohnnyR