MC loading at 47K


Hi All,

Just after some expert advice from your good selves if I may. My current system is as follows:

Musical Fidelity KW550 intergrated amp which has a MM and MC section, both loaded at 47K. The only difference between them is the step up voltage.

My turntable is the Rega P9 with Ortofon Kontrapunkt A.

Looking at changing my cartridge but honestly cant decide between MM or MC.

My music taste are as follows:

Reggae
Soul
Female Vocal
RNB

No classical or jazz.

So what should I choose based I'm only limited to a 47K loading. I was thinking either of the below:

1. Ortofon Jubilee (MC)
2. Ortofon 2M black (MM)
3. Clear Audio Maestro (MM)

Is there a down side to loading up a MC so much?

Thoughts please...thanks
che13
Lewm.
The 4 carts I tried all with same phono stage.
Lyra Dorian
ZYx RS50
Scheu SL
Ortofon Cadenza Black.

Out of them all the ZYX sounded best at 470 and the rest at 220.

Was and still am open to trying any and all loading but that was results for myself.

Obviously to my ears in my system etc etc.
Long time ago when i bought my first hi-fi phono stage i didn’t know about loading. There was just one switch between mm and mc, later i realized it was just a gain switch, but the load was 47k for both (low and high output cartridges). Guess what phono stage it was?

It was $500 Grado PH-10 phono stage. The reason for no optional loading was obvious (all Grado carts are MI). I was using MC with that phono stage and it was just fine for LOMC.

My secong phono stage was much more expensive (about $2k), but also with no optional loading on MC input, because two SUTs inside the phono stage :) This is still the best phono stage (WLM Phonata ref.) when i need the deepest bass, nothing can beat it in low register for some reason.

Using JLTi at the moment i like 47k for MC, not for all of them, but for most of them (low impedance MC). I can use whatever load resistors with JLTi, i’m using low value resistors only if the cartridge is too bright, but it rarely happens. For open sound 47k Ohm is the best.

Regarding the Uber’s question i think the loading from 100 Ohm to 47k Ohm on my Gold Note phono stage is irrelevant for my FR-7fz. Only when i’m using lower value (for experiment) the sound became rolled off and not interesting in my system. Anything from 100 Ohm to 47k Ohm is good, i can’t detect a big difference with this particular FR-7fz cartridge. However, ZYX CPP-1 headamp does some magic with the same cart, it’s better with ZyX headamp in between FR-7fz and Gold Note phono stage (in MM mode).

Ortofon MC2000 directly connected to Gold Note was fine loaded at 47k or lower.

I think 47k Ohm is pretty much universal for most of my LOMC




Very interested indeed.
I had read a lot about 47k loading for lomc and was real fired up for it to work, so you could say I even had some expectation bias for it to sound good.

But after numerous listening sessions with,numerous carts ( and as you know the change on Goldnote is instant so real easy to tell, no memory thing) it just did not cut it for me.

Maybe in my case it is the sum of everything else, cables etc.

Right now running Nagaoka MP150 so not going to experiment again anytime soon. But I tried enough to say just in my system, my carts, my ears it was not optimal loaded at 47k.
Well, as Ralph explained many times it's all about the phono stage. 
And probably a cartridge impedance

P.S. sadly you can't try your nagaoka MM with 100k ohm
Correct Chakster but as we have the same phono stage and get differing results it has to be something else.
My carts, my total system or my ears! LOL.