Any cable delivers more bass than Cardas Golden Reference?


Hi-

Im using Golden Reference in my System(Merlin VSM Speakers), and the bass is natively stronger with the Gold Ref than any other cable i had the chance of using.

This is a good thing in the case of my system as the speakers are a little lean for my taste, so the cable, whether it adds unnatural bass or being very natural, is very good or me.

I want to go deeper since i have to buy a longer pair(from 1m now to 2m), because distances between amp and speakers recently changed here.

So before i buy id like to know if there is even more "bassey" cable out there.

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There’s a guy on here that if you tell him your amp and speakers he’ll tell ya what size of automotive jumper cable to use. Sorry... I had to throw that in.

I’ve not heard the upper Cardas but I’m sure they are very nice and like any cable it’s personal preference. Reading above it seems likes there’s a mix of IC’s and speaker cable from others; is it speaker cable recommendations you are inquiring about? I get great, tight bass with WyWires Cables. I’ve moved all over the place from copper, to silver, to hybrids and ended back with all copper. Check out WyWires. Very open organic sound that doesn’t keep me thinking about wires.

Side note: Adding Vicoustic Multifuser DC2 - 6 pack behind/between my speakers has done more WOW than any cable upgrade I’ve ever done; which tightened everything up and literally made my speakers disappear.


OK- So i got that 99% Copper 10g wire.
Hooked it up, placed the 2 speakers one next to the other, sent identical signal to both and with my DAW remote toggled between them. And yes, i flipped the wire between them to make sure its not the actual speaker or position. Same result in both tests. So no doubt about the cable.

There is not a slightest doubt that the Cards GR is fuller in the low mid and bottom and is more detailed and upfront in the mid.
And i mean by A LOT!! its not a super fine detail, its like a different speaker altogether.

So for the ones who still doubt this- Sorry to be the bearer of expensive news, but wire makes a HUGE difference, on a level of an equalizer, no less...

At least for me the question is never to be asked again.

Now i need to find 2m GR wire instead of my 1m GR that is too short and will have to go.

Really love the Cards GR. Warm yet detailed. Fits my taste.
I think once you get to a certain size wire gage all the rest is $$$. What I have found is the components in my amps are made to a manufacturing tolerance that allows audible difference in output. I have also measured many speaker drivers and there is variance there too. Everything has a manufacturing tolerance and those capacitors in your amps for instance are probably no better than 5% +- and probably 10%. So two amps from the same company made on the very same day can and do sound a bit different because when you add all the tolererance deviance up you have different output. They call it tolerance stack up and as long as it does not exceed a certain level they will sell it to you. This will effect sound volume and bass and treble output channel to channel and if you are bi-amping as I am there is a difference from the left channel to the right channel amp output. I have two amps and a two way two channel system so there are six components with different tolerance output to be integrated for best sound.

To balance the difference in your speaker drivers, your amp output and room acoustics I use a Xilica xp3060. It will allow you to compensate for unbalance and bass and treble and pretty much anything else. Above and beyond correcting these the Xilica will also allow you to flavor output to taste as well. You can save specific EQ settings for various types of music you play and recall them when you want for your current music of choice. You can also time align drivers. I figure the vast majority of all the cables sold are solutions looking for a problem and that problem is you keeping your money. Do a room EQ and find out how the acoustics of the room effect your speakers. There is a lot going on and until you get to the point where you can actually start to analyze what you are doing and correct what you have to work with cables wont amount to a hill of beans. Why throw bits and pieces at something when you can do this and analyze each step along the way to see if it works. Room Equalizer Wizard or REW which is free + one calibrated measuring mike from UMike and one laptop and you can begin to learn how to determine what your problems really are. It’s not simple set and forget if you want the best possible sound from what you have unfortunately and the very last thing I would worry about is cables.