How much discount typically for a new MC275 to expect from a dealer?


I'm not interested at this time going used. No stock in my area, I'll have to order or go out of town. McIntosh has a pretty tight grip on their dealers, so I imagine not finding any here on AG. Just curious what to expect when making an offer. I'm not going to pay full retail. Ideas, thoughts? I'm not interested in other brands or amp ideas. I'm just researching Macintosh at this point in time. 
aberyclark
I live not too far from their headquarters in Binghamton, NY and made a visit there to see if I could buy equipment and avoid going to a dealer.
Didn't happen.

Expect to pay retail unless it's a demo piece.  AC usually has demo's for sale at a reduced price.  
I think the best way to get a discount from a dealer is to call and make sure you let him know that if he gives you a good price you will purchase from him and most importantly you will not be using his price as a bargaining chip with your local dealer. So tell him where you live and you have no dealers and you are in fact ready to purchase the amp, from him, ask him if he takes credit cards, if you intent is  to use one. 
Give that a shot
I just paid full price for my MC 275.  Was told that McIntosh refuses to allow its dealers to make any reductions to the retail price.