Contuzzi,
I feel strongly that you are way off base. We all hear differently and therefore enjoy different speakers and gear.
I get sick of hearing about terrible sets up, poor sounding rooms etc... I've heard them set up in very good to poor rooms and always with good gear from all of the top manufacturers. I hear a fatiguing speaker as do many listeners and lot's of them don't ever post on Internet boards. Even a few of their dealers feel the same way privately, but Paradigm is a larger company who does extensive marketing so they sell a lot of it.
I'm also not competing with anything or anyone. When the grandiose claims kept being made by a dealer who posts on anything he sells (the boards are his main source of advertising), I called him out. I then even went to said dealers home where he sells his gear and hear the same sound. He made claims of his gear not being set up properly, because of a photo shoot the night before. Maybe it was, or maybe not. Either way the other guy I was with disliked them more than I did for the same reasons most of us have shared. Sorry, not an industry guy as I'm friends with many and that includes some folks at Paradigm.
No one is looking for, nor needing your pity. We've heard them set up properly and they aren't our cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that and it's not even a knock on them.
BTW, I have owned JM Lab speakers back in the day and just sold them a few years ago. I also have owned a few pair of Paradigm speakers and subs over the years. One set is with my daughter and they are perfect for what she uses them for. I got my brother to purchase a full audio/video surround set up with the older Paradigm's. I've helped many of my friends set up system with them as they like them. Maybe that makes me a Paradigm home or 'industry' guy. I just don't like the new offerings for MY ears.
I feel strongly that you are way off base. We all hear differently and therefore enjoy different speakers and gear.
I get sick of hearing about terrible sets up, poor sounding rooms etc... I've heard them set up in very good to poor rooms and always with good gear from all of the top manufacturers. I hear a fatiguing speaker as do many listeners and lot's of them don't ever post on Internet boards. Even a few of their dealers feel the same way privately, but Paradigm is a larger company who does extensive marketing so they sell a lot of it.
I'm also not competing with anything or anyone. When the grandiose claims kept being made by a dealer who posts on anything he sells (the boards are his main source of advertising), I called him out. I then even went to said dealers home where he sells his gear and hear the same sound. He made claims of his gear not being set up properly, because of a photo shoot the night before. Maybe it was, or maybe not. Either way the other guy I was with disliked them more than I did for the same reasons most of us have shared. Sorry, not an industry guy as I'm friends with many and that includes some folks at Paradigm.
No one is looking for, nor needing your pity. We've heard them set up properly and they aren't our cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that and it's not even a knock on them.
BTW, I have owned JM Lab speakers back in the day and just sold them a few years ago. I also have owned a few pair of Paradigm speakers and subs over the years. One set is with my daughter and they are perfect for what she uses them for. I got my brother to purchase a full audio/video surround set up with the older Paradigm's. I've helped many of my friends set up system with them as they like them. Maybe that makes me a Paradigm home or 'industry' guy. I just don't like the new offerings for MY ears.