Anyone heard the Alsyvox Botticelli planar speakers?


Full range ribbon tweeter/midrange and push-pull planar magnetic bass driver.  22Hz to 40kHz. 94 dB efficient due to all neo magnets. 260 lbs per speaker.  Has garnered enthusiastic show reviews.  BTW, "only $87k".   Looks beautiful.

https://alsyvox.com/

dracule1
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@faxer LOL, On every forum where the Alsyvox speaker is mentioned, you or another dealer post how great the GT speakers are. Somebody should organize a shoot-out between the two brands to actually determine whether you have a claim to naysay the Alsyvox’s. Albeit, the GT’s are a LOT less $$, but are they in the same league as the A’s??
Personally, if you have to use subs ( servo or otherwise) to augment your speaker, I believe you would be at a severe disadvantage from the gitgo! Getting the blend to be invisible with a sub/planar panel set up is almost impossible, IME. Nonetheless, a shoot-out would be instructive.
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daveyf...I wish it were so simple to get Alsyvox and my speakers in the same room on the same system.. I would jump at the opportunity for such a comparison...the result may introduce you to the reality that higher cost does not necessarily mean better performance.

Truth is you dont have to use subs with my speakers, they will perform quite nicely sans subs, I do this demo at shows quite a few times over the weekend. It demonstrates how well the subs integrate with the main speakers so when I switch them off if the music doesn't call for sub bass...the change is imperceptible. Of course when the music calls for sub bass these are much better equipped to do so than any planar driver.
I design my drivers around the fact that planars are great at articulation and speed in the bass but not great at sub bass at high spl's, so why allow them to reproduce low bass it just messes up what they do so well in the mid and upper bass.
 Cones when implemented properly are much better at reproducing low bass.
My design philosophy is let each driver do what it does best.

Your statement " I believe you would be at a severe disadvantage from the gitgo! Getting the blend to be invisible with a sub/planar panel set up is almost impossible" Tells me you've never heard my speakers and have no idea as to what they can or can't do.

Truth of the matter is...Alsyvox is an entity with deep pockets for worldwide exhibitions, GTAW is not. So it's doubtful I will ever show in Munich or abroad to make such a comparison.
I am sure GTAW sells a fraction of the speakers as Alsyvox.
The reason GTAW sells any at all is due to fact there are people out there who's #1 criteria for purchasing a speaker is not brand recognition but what they sound like. My customers understand there are always alternatives in life and whose decisions are not influenced by brand name recognition or heresay.
For approximately $50K you can have a balls out speaker system for a lot less than Alsyvox's smallest offering.

Greg
GT Audio Works








Greg,

If your speakers are so great and I am not saying they are not, then why not just create a post about your speakers and tell people about them and invite them to listen.

When you jump in other posts that were started for another brand it makes you look desperate.

It is what it is....

Bob


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"I like it when Faxer does his shilling against Alsyvox.  I've talked to about 10 people now that said they might have been interested in listening to  the GT speakers, but said with the way this guy shills on forums they would NEVER consider purchasing from him.

He doesn't realize what harm he has already done to his brand.

Let him continue, fun watching someone shoot themselves in the foot.
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Rhapsody,
So you like watching my dealer (faxer) shoot himself in the foot.
I am sure it amuses some on the forums.
Hey It amuses me sometimes !

Sorry... he doesn't mean to ruin your Alsyvox fan club
It's tough when you are small and unknown.
He is just trying to get his voice heard over the din of opinions on the forums.
Hey we all love to hate the troll, so go ahead be my guest.

BTW...
If those 10 people you spoke of feel that way, I doubt they would have ever taken me seriously to begin with so nothing lost by his trolling.

Greg
GT Audio Works




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@gnjtack You make some good points. BUT like most folks who post on forums, I think you also jump to conclusions and read into posts things that may NOT necessarily be there! For example, i don’t believe that I stated anywhere that just because a product is priced higher it automatically means that it is better. I personally believe that price has absolutely NOTHING to do with performance.
Now, lets discuss why it is one of your dealers feels the need to post on this Alsyvox thread. ( which as i mentioned in my post, has occurred with some of your dealers on other forums as well. BTW, it is I who has been banned from WBF...they don’t like alternate opinions over there, LOL!!) ). You offer a planar speaker that is, I suppose in your mind ( and maybe in reality too...that the jury is out on), a competitor to the aforementioned Alsyvox brand. After all they are both planar designs. Alternatively, your speaker is a competitor to the Alsyvox speaker. Now, the question becomes how much of a competitor are you to each other? I seriously doubt that either of you impacts the sales of the other!!! You stated that GTAW sells a fraction of what Alsyvox does. I would suggest that this is probably incorrect, why...because neither brand has much, or any, traction here in the USA...and I very highly doubt that either brand has much more traction anywhere else either!

As to my points about matching up a sub with a planar panel, you are correct, I have NOT heard your speaker design, and as such it is possible that I would NOT hear the blend...which would be a great thing. Is it likely that this is the case, unfortunately not, as I have heard the blend on absolutely 100% of all speakers that employ a planar design and a dynamic design subwoofer...and we are talking of quite a few combos like this over the many years.

Like i pointed out, if a shoot out could be arranged, this would be a very informative thing, and would certainly be of interest to hobbyists like myself. Would it seal the deal that one design and speaker is ALWAYS going to sound better than the other, no; but it would certainly be interesting.

Here’s a suggestion...since you want to increase your visibility and ’educate’ a’philes as to your product ( a worthy cause, please don’t get me wrong!). How about setting up some dealer shoot outs between your product and the many Maggie’s that are easy to a) acquire and b) located all over the country. Maybe even start at the top, your product vs. the similarly priced Maggie 30.7. Just a thought, LOL.