ARC Ref 3 - thoughts?


Hi all, 

I have an ARC ref 3 that I've been really happy with, after switching all the valves it has improved a lot. What's the view on the newer ref series, are these much better? Could you describe the sound improvement?

Thanks, Tim
tim_field
the 5se offered better leading edge, bass articulation and depth. 
if you dont want to spend the $, buy upgraded fuse & power cord. and footers. ---there's lots of improvement just there (and portable to the 5se at a later date)
I would add an HRS base before moving to a REF5se
but that is indeed a lovely preamp, my current reference...The Tung Sol in the regulation side makes a massive difference.

have fun, enjoy the music!!!!!
Hi Tim,

I have done the Ref 3 upgrade circuit.  Namely, the Ref 5, Ref 5 SE and now the Ref 6. IMO, there was an incremental and noticeable improvement from the Ref 3 to the Ref 5SE and then again to the Ref 6.  

I recall seeing a few Ref 3s listed on A'gon for the high $3ks to maybe $4K range.  The list prices for the Ref 5SE are all over the place, but assume something in the high $5Ks or low $6Ks.  So, moving up to the Ref 5SE could cost some change.  

That said, I recall that my Ref 3 was a real sweet sounding pre.  If you are happy with your Ref 3, especially after the retube, why not stay put and just enjoy it?

 BIF

I own a REF5se and love it. Years ago I had an LS26 and it needed some repair and the dealer lent me a REF3 while mine was in the shop. First taste of heroin is always free, right! I got hooked and started to save. Then the REF5 came out and that dealer and I did a A-B between the 3 and 5 and both of us were amazed at the soundstage and articulation. So I saved more then they introduced the SE version and I finally had enough to buy one just as the 6 was coming out. All I can say if  you have the means bypass the 5 and go with the 6, if not you will be pleased with the 5 after owning the 3.

All my opinion of course