Things that make you go, "Hmmmmm...."


the Muse was about $10k new years ago, I paid $650 for it on Audiogon


What CD player can I buy that will hold its value and not be near worthless in anything more than a few years?

New or used.


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I admit I still have a lot of CDs. And I will always want something to play them.

Why???  It’s like saying I still have a buggy whip, so I want to keep a horse around to use it.  Seriously.  When you can either load your CDs onto a server and/or, better yet, just subscribe to a good music subscription service (i.e. Qobuz, Tidal, etc.) and get virtually all the music on your CDs plus millions of other songs as well for a few dollars a month without leaving your chair, why would you cling to playing a CD one at a time on a CD player?

There’s no benefit to playing CDs on a CD player anymore.  It’s not like vinyl where you get a different experience for having to remove your arse from the chair to flip sides or change albums.  Having to get up to change CDs gets you nothing, except inconvenience and maybe a little exercise.  And subscribing to a music service will open your world to music you probably would’ve never heard.  Think of it as having the world’s largest jukebox at your disposal for a few dollars per month.  Imagine picking a genre, hitting shuffle, and entering a world of discovery.  Or you can continue playing one CD of yours at a time.  Just sayin’. 

@millercabon what exactly are you on about? The Rega Saturn sells new for $3000 and can buy pristine used ones for like $1000.  It’s not even that old.  
"Why???  It’s like saying I still have a buggy whip, so I want to keep a horse around to use it.  Seriously.  When you can either load your CDs onto a server and/or, better yet, just subscribe to a good music subscription service (i.e. Qobuz, Tidal, etc.) and get virtually all the music on your CDs plus millions of other songs as well for a few dollars a month without leaving your chair, why would you cling to playing a CD one at a time on a CD player?"

I have thousands of CDs.  Don't have time to load them all onto a server.

I've already bought these CDs.  Don't want to pay dollars per month to hear the same stuff that I've already bought.

Good luck with your streaming.  Hope your internet is robust.
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I’m wary of used players in general because the transport is largely a mechanical device and can wear out or get sloppy. That’s been the weak link that led to the demise of both of my retired players - Adcom and Ah!. I briefly had a Rotel, but returned it for (you guessed it) transport issues. Using an Oppo now, and yes, I often stream ripped versions, but it’s always nice to have a hard copy. I like to read paper books, too.
I’m not sure how playing direct from CD can sound better than streaming the same data, given comparable DACs, but obviously there is strong anecdotal evidence that it is possible. Don’t overlook the attraction of ceremony in playing music as well. I’ve never been able to get past the inherent noise of vinyl, but the inspection and cleaning before playing is enticing. While audio is primarily driven by what we hear, it is often enhanced by the other senses and rituals. I’m going to be sad when my CDs succumb to mold or material fatigue. Eventually, I’ll need to pony up for a robust transport that can go the distance. I hope there’s something nice available when I get around to it.