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Looking at Anthem preamp. Do I need it? Also the Innuos Zenith (Zen?) and or Lumin T2?

So much to say, I will definitely NOT get it all out here now. 

I am not an audiophile but would like to get better sound from my system. As good as I can get it for my needs and budget. I have a 5.1 System with 2 subwoofers.

Anthem MRX 720 receiver
2 Rythmik 15 inch subwoofers
Paradigm Persona 3f speakers
Parasound HCA2205 AT amplifier (5 x 220 wpc)
I recently added an Anthem STR power amp for the Personas.

Ease of use is right up there with SQ. I love turning on my receiver and having everything there for me. I don't have a source really. I'm not that thrilled with Playfi. I tried Tidal on it, but I think it was just the small screen of my phone that made me not want to use it. I will probably go with Roon and if I could view the menus on my TV screen with anything else, that would trump anything else. SQ will have toi take a back seat to that. I just prefer hard button remotes to touch screens because of my poor eyesight.

I loved the sound before upgrading to the Anthem str amp. I only say this because I did not recalibrate the system as a whole yet. So the settings are still for the previous Parasound amp. I do hear a difference between the Parasound and Anthem. I had the system calibrated professionally, if you will. I don't have the knowledge or the patience to do it. I absolutely loved the results.

So, I want to ONLY stream music now to my 2 front speakers (and subs)  when not watching movies etc... Do I need both the Innuos type product AND the Lumin T2 AND an Anthem preamp? Can I get away with just one or 2 of these products? That is a lot of money for me to spend on just streaming Qobuz or Tidal etc... Maybe even Amazon HD if that ever gets settled. I want to decide and purchase over the next several months and just keep the system for many years. Definitely will be buying used. After that, I will look into speaker cables, IC etc.. But this comes first, I guess. 

Also, where will my bottleneck be if these pieces are selected? Can I get away with the Zen instead of the Zenith? D2 instead of the T2? Can I just buy the T2 and go directly into my AV receiver? One piece would be great! and more affordable of course.

The reason I'm looking at higher priced units is I do not swap out components after purchase.... ever. So, they will stay for a long while.

Thanks for reading.

Also, is there one unit I should buy before the others? I think I made a mistake in buying the amp first. Maybe the Innuos? I may like it into the 720? I doubt it.

Thanks
cissado
cissado OP
113 posts
 
I've seen Audiotroy's posts. He seems very informed. But since I plan on purchasing used, I would not want to waste his time in that manner. I am only able to get into these high dollar pieces because I buy them used at a discount.
Quick question about the post above, if the T2 connects to an integrated amp, I assume it does not use the DAC inside the amp. It is just a passthrough to the amp then the speakers? If so, can't I do that with my AV receiver by taking its DAC out of the equation if connected to the T2? Thus eliminating the need for the str preamp?

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benzman
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Stay away from a Lumin T2. Not a good match for the Personas. Trust me I have 5f’s and a T2 and could wait to get rid of it. Good player but not for the Personas. Look for something that uses a AKM chipset. Much warmer and a much better match for the Personas. 
david_ten
5,480 posts
 
if the T2 connects to an integrated amp, I assume it does not use the DAC inside the amp [???].

The T2 needs to be connected to a Preamp, therefore it would go into an integrated amp via it's analog outputs. In this scenario, you would be using the DAC in the T2. If you need to go Digital OUT, see below...

The T2 offers USB and BNC Digital Outputs (I believe). You would use one of those to your Receiver (which I assume has a built in DAC). This would bypass T2's DAC function.
cissado OP
113 posts
 
Thank you both for the replies.

David_ten, I see, so I certainly want to use the dac inside the T2 and not my AVR or integrated for that matter. If I do get the Anthem str preamp, then I might just as well get the Innuos and go directly into the Anthem without the T2 in the middle. Just trying not to be redundant.

Benzman, I did read your findings on the T2 and switching to the Carty Audio dms600. I did actually look at that to purchase, but when I connected my Anthem str amp last week, I saw that it was more "warm" than I thought it would be. I did not want to keep going in that direction, so I thought the T2 might be OK after all. I do appreciate your thoughts on the 2 units and will revisit the Cary. I hope I can PM you with a couple of questions about it. 

I'm sure either the T2 or DMS600 would not disapoint me because I am not as critical as most people here. I'm coming from an Onkyo AV receiver, to the Anthem 720 AV receiver, now this jump I'm sure will be "good enough" for me.

I just wanted to know if I could get away with buying one or two of these units instead of having to buy all 3 for my setup. I will eventually have them calibrated by the same person who did it the first time. He really made my system sound excellent. I now know because of how the different new amp sounds in the system without correction. I miss it. I guess I can ask him, but he is more concerned with the final result and not as interested in the individual pieces. 

Thanks again
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audiotroy
3,791 posts
 
OP first of all always give a dealer a chance on earning your business sometimes we have demos or open box units which may be a bit more expensive than used but not always way more expensive.

The T2 is excellent and can sound fanatastic with the Personas just depends on the entire chain.

The Anthem STR preamp is very good and makes an excellent match for the STR power amplifier, the dac in it is very good and you really need a preamp/dac you you can use the analog bypass function to gain access to your Anthem MRX 720.

For roughly 4k we could provide you with a demo tube preamp and an excellent dac streamer with an trade up in a year deal to get a better dac.

Considering we sell, Cary, Lumin, Anthem, Paradigm, Innuous, and Parasound wouldn't we be the logical choice to assist you with this project?

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor 
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