Zu Omen or Tekton Lore

06-06-11: Cwazz
"Sebroff I apreciate the help , the 35 amp was actually a intergrated amp. I am use to the sub woofer.I had volume at 8-9 depending on the music."

Couldn't make it easy, eh Cwazz :)
The 35 watt tube integrated amp sounds like it should have been a pretty good match, and it does eliminate the Hafler so, well, ummm...I got nuthin' man. Sorry.

well sebrof the tube amp did cahnge the sound , but it just wasnt for me , so the search continues!!

Cwazz,

Tube amps can sound mighty different. Particular things to keep in mind with them are not only the tubes used but also whether there is negative feeback in the circuitry and the amp's damping factor. Too high a damping factor with designs like the Lores leads to overdamped bass. That may or may not be your problem, but I'd put it on the list of suspects. I loved the Aleph 30 in a DIY speaker of similar design to the Lore. But the damping factor was too high and this seriously impacted the quality and amount of bass I got compared to amps with lower damping factors. Of course there is also the worry of underdamping too, which leads to less controlled, boomier bass.

Might be the speaker, might be synergy with this mystery unnamed tube amp.

fisher 500c

Cwazz - Assuming your Fisher can get you about $400 back in your pocket, allow me to suggest the following amps that are all on Audiogon now - most I have heard minus the Cayin (but I've heard great things about them). All of these should be fairly easy to resell also.

Vincent SP-331 Hybrid (although $700)
Cayin TA-30 Bizzy Bee (this would be my choice)
Jolida JD-302B or 202A

Rega Mira 3 - if you want solid state

I believe any one of these could be a great match for the Lores. It seems like you prefer vintage for front end, no?