Trying to find someone with a cable cooker in Metro NY


Hello to all...

Have recently been 'exposed' to the concept of cable cooking to improve performance, but would like to pay someone who has one, to do it to my interconnects and speaker cables, each for a 3 day (72 hr) treatment... Would be nice if you are in the Metro NY area, but would be willing to ship to you if out of area.

Would also like to hear from someone with comparative experience (geoffkait?) in using this and/or cryogenic treatment: if results are different, one more effective than the other,  one more lasting than the other, must treatment be redone periodically?

Please relate real-life info ( don't be a second level whistleblower, passing relayed to you experiences...).

Best Wishes to all.
insearchofprat
Evaluating the effects on the sound after in-freezer treatment of my homemade 12gauge Solid Core Copper vinyl-jacketed speaker cables and jumpers: 2-8' lengths, twisted; connections to JOB INT and GERSHMAN AVANT GARDE RX-20 as bare wire.

Immediately apparent:
Increased sound level (from same vol setting)
Wider and deeper sound; more 'layered' sound
More focused sound: More 'air' around instruments and voices in the                    sound stage; more defined sound
Cleaner, clearer (?) sound; appears to have faster presentation
Increased PRaT: more rhymic, toe-tapping, head-bobbing

Eagerly looking forward to comparing speaker cables with jumpers to true individual bi-wire...

So impressed with the sound changes I hear - over time, I will treat interconnects and power cords to a couple days in the freezer and frig...

Modifying discussion: has anybody else attempted the home freezer treatment?
                                          
Say insearchofprat here is something for you to think about. Great satire by the way whether intentional or accidental. You do know you have to keep from having any dips in elevation in your cables don't you? Electrons can puddle there in the dips and it can cause a popping noise when you first power up your amp. This is because the puddled electrons join the inrush of new ones and cause a temporary surge of power you will hear as a pop in your speakers. If you have a gentle slope from the amp down to the speakers with no sags anywhere all the electrons will drain off into the speaker each time you shut down and this will eliminate the pops. I also recommend rare earth heavy metal conductors as there is less space between atoms for the electrons to puddle up in so it will reduce pops even if you have dips.
insearchofprat,

I am not disputing that you hear differences and that they are for better. However, the list is so long and all-inclusive that it seems a bit exagerrated. A casual reader may conclude that sticking her/his cables in the refrigerator for a couple of days will transform $1500 system into $150 000 system.
glupson

Just because I critically listen doesn't mean that any of the 'improvements' listed are hugh - but if I hear 'um, I hear 'um. Remember: I'm working with $7 worth of 12g solid core copper, vinyl-jacketed wire made into a homemade pair of twisted wires speaker cable - so my improvements could be enormous! - or they could still be well below the WireWorld $350 speaker cables presentation, offered to me by a seller who has a cable cooker, rarely used, but offered to cook my cables for $200. 
My electronics are good: vintage Marantz SA-8001 SACD Player, JOB INT Integrated Amp and vintage Gershman Avant Garde RX-20s; interconnect from CD to INT is (again) vintage Harmonic Technologies Pro-Silway MKlll (using DAC in the Marantz) or Toslink plastic fiber Optical Cable into the JOB INC (using the DAC in it). Power Cords are no-name from a vintage purchase to the Marantz and the Goldmund/JOB Sweetcord into the JOB... MY SYSTEM was around $6500 (+ speaker wire...)
Doing the experiment obviously proves to me that you should not simply reject an idea just because it seems ludicrous - you just don't know until you experiment and find out for yourself. Sometimes the problem is that people are afraid of looking foolish by trying something that they reason IT JUST CAN'T MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE!
AND just because my cheapo speaker cable reacted well to a freezer treatment doesn't mean that a complex specifically designed cable would react as well (and in the listeners opinion -  improve the cables performance) - or does it? You (or anyone) can't tell me either way UNTIL you/they try it. AND MAKE THEIR OWN EVALUATION!
This experiment leads me to try almost any other treatment with other new sets of the same twisted wire: Cable-cooked, Cry-frozen...why not?
My system has been improved but I can't tell you by how many $$$ - I don't care about that. My system is more enjoyable and I am very happy to sit back and let it play for now...
insearchofprat,

The only thing anyone can say is "good for you". That is frequently used instead of "whatever" but I really mean it.

At some point, not so long ago, a well-known person around here was preaching that orchestra would, in almost those terms, be sitting wider apart and what not once the cover was taken off the amplifier. It would improve/spread even further if some ties inside would be cut. In some sense, orchestra was incarcerated inside the box and would be freed with these manuevres. As it happens, most of the people were ridiculing this fairly extravagant concept. He was blaming everyone on not being right as they had never tried. So I tried. I took an old amplifier I had, which happened to have also been the one he was very familiar with, and unscrewed the cover. Nothing happened. Nothing that we were told would happen. I reported it to him and was met with dismissive statements how I did not do enough and I had just scratched the surface. Basically, failure of his imagination to be reproduced was my fault and not the fault of his bizarre idea.

I do not doubt that he had heard different things, but after my experience and any logic applied, it was more likely observer’s bias than anything else. If I were not disinterested enough, I would stick some cables into refrigerator and report back to you. However, I cannot let even the slightest chance of it working materialize. That would make geoffkait right and that is a big no-no.

I am still puzzled that you could not find anyone in New York metro area to lend you a Cable Cooker. What do people do? Use it every day?