you are right lets just turn a blind eye to all those innocent people who have according to some reports lost a lot of money or been betrayed.@kenjit
I am one of those people. After lengthy conversations with Roy over the last couple of years, it became obvious that I was going to have to be lucky to get them.The whole thing was a version of go fund me. I paid for speakers more than 4 years ago. I know I will never get them. There was nothing to get from him then, and there is nothing left to get now. Period. Like @silveraudio, I have said enough about how things went down, but I am resigned to the fact I will never get money back. Time to let it go, because life is too short.