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I am Looking for That Elusive 3 Dimensional Room Filling Soundstage

I have heard it half a dozen times at home, small room, Primaluna HP Integrated or a Rogue Atlas Magnum II and RP-1 Pre and believe it or not a pair of close to 30 year old Paradigm Export Monitors.

The experience I had, I can only describe as sitting in an aquarium when the litlle rectangular glass aquarium was filled with liquid engulfing you from all directions with no awareness of the speaker boxes...it was just perfect!

The room is approximately 12 x 13 x 9, small bedroom converted to a den!

So the question is what speakers does everyone recommend to provide the same experience?? I have a budget of $2000 for the next little babies so let’s not talk about Focal uber expensive stand mounts at $9500 thank you!

Monitor not floor standers and the Primaluna is gone, it’s all Rogue And yes, I would consider a pair of floor standers that are not to intrusive.
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geoffkait
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Well, that certainly would explain all the flashbacks. 🤡
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Wolf_garcia
Big fan brother 😎
snapsc
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I have to admit that I also chased that "all enveloping" sound for many years.  Then, one day, I realized that I already had it in my car and that no matter how good the car's sound system was, the experience never matched my home system or live music.

It hit me that live music normally had a 120-180 degree soundfield from the listening position (not 360 degrees)...and that tonality, clarity and dynamics were equally key elements in the overall listening experience.  I stopped chasing "full immersion" and focused on clarity and tone and my home system experience moved up a whole new level.

I guess my conclusion is that 360 degrees is fun...especially for home theater....but at least for me when it comes to music, there are other things that are equally or even more important.
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verdantaudio
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Placement is critical but if you can get them 2’ off the wall I would look at the Revel Performa3 line.  I had the paired with a different Rogue power amp for years.  The M105s with stands are $2K.  The M106’s without stands $2K.  

It is a well designed speaker that takes advantage of cheap labor in Indonesia. It is not the be all end all but it is very good for the money.  
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If you fancy OHMs I suggest you take a close look at the cheap drivers and crude fit and finish of those speaker. I found it to be a depressing experience. I very much wanted to be an "OHM believer" so over the past couple of years, I tried three different models in my home, and either returned them (eating substantial shipping costs) or selling them at a significant loss. I THOUGHT I wanted that kind of sound reproduction in my dedicated listening room, so I foolishly persisted. The SQ of the tweeters was especially bad.

Lesson finally learned.

My Maggie .7’s and Sonus Faber monitors are infinitely more satisfying, in so many ways.

YMMV


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