sellers trying to sell used product for 10-20% off of list price


I don’t get it. Almost any item here can be bought brand new from a dealer with a full warranty for 20% off - virtually any and all high end product. Some can be bought for close to 30% percent off. Sellers trying to sell year old product for 20% off are delusional, perhaps hoping for someone to naively buy it at their price but I doubt it happens. If the product isn’t in the range of 40-50% off of MSRP I'm not sure why anyone would buy it as often the warranty doesn’t transfer. Factor in sellers asking for 5-6% extra for Paypal plus shipping charges and even a 30% percent discount really is more like 15% off of list- a non starter. Am I the only one doing this math  ?  I can buy brand new at 25-30% with no extra charge for using paypal or my credit card and minimal shipping. Asking for a friend lol.
cowan217
Sorry to disappoint, but the current market asking price and closed auction/sale price for an MR-85 mac tuner, does indeed support his pricing, which is right in the middle. Not high, not low, but right in the middle.


@teo-audio...…………….

Then I got one hell of a bargain!  It is a decent tuner but no where as good as my MR88..  I replaced a Magnum Dynalab MD90 and Signal Sleuth with the MR85.  The MR 85 doesn't sound quite as good,  but close to the Magnum combo.  I only bought it to match the rest of the McIntosh stack in my other system.  I guess I should call Mike Sastra @ AC and thank him for such a great deal!

I stand corrected from my above post.  Never in a million years would I have thought that tuner is still worth that kind of money.
you got a great deal...tuner prices are quite variable these days, so nothing to lose by asking high price but accepting offers...having a Don Scott modified MR-74 I've mostly lost track of the tuner market, and am sometimes shocked at both the high and low prices the classics sell for...
As the recent owner of a MR-85 I can tell ya $2 k offers would have made me dance in aisles... but to each his own....
I did trade it for a minty pair of Theil 2.3 in cherry.... sometimes a trade is best

Richard Modaferi modified my Mx-110 at Audio classics and it certainly equals the MR-85

to the OP

what was the chain ? 
A customer owes a retailer nothing, other than to pay the agreed upon price. You are not obliged to sell it to them at a reduced price.

Your post is sour grapes. You think you have it bad in retail?  Try business to business. The OP represents virtually every customer. 

MFRs and Retailers set prices not on what a product is worth, but on what they think they can charge for it. Given that situation, how can you fault a customer that negotiates for a lower price. He has no obligation to take food off his table and put it on yours. 


ed Oct 12, 2019roxy542,927 posts10-12-2019 6:29pmExcuse me for saying so OP, but I am in retail and I can smell your type from a mile away. You are the type of difficult customer that no retailer wants, but sells to anyway for a couple of reasons. 1) They're having a bad week and it's a big ticket item, or it's been in the store too long anyway. 2) To shut you up an get rid of you, because there aren't too many like you, just a few percentage wise and you serve a purpose once in a while, however unpleasant. You're the type that wants to get the lowest price, fair or unfair, seller be damned. But of course you always will find a seller. The rest of us see it a little differently.