Why pay so much?

Well, as much as I actually appreciate Taurus, it is far from the best deal or best bang for the buck for me. It is lacking a few things and has a few too many. I am not making it up, it is really like that. It ends up being similar situation with speakers, cables, etc. By the way, I wonder what a margin on that car was when new. It was surely less than 50000% but it also sold in much higher numbers than any of the speakers ever will. If you build the best-selling car, the game is different than if you build a very rare one. Margins are higher on exotics. Kind of like on $250 000 speakers.

"With less fish in the sea, with 4 or 5-10 wiring companies, there volume would go up instead of being spread around..."

Check the price of Albuterol inhalers. Unless something changed recently, there is only three manufacturers in the U.S.A. There used to be a few more. It used to cost $15 or so.

Okay. Hrm. Now I feel like we’re going around and around in circles.
I do appreciate the fun debate, and I’m declaring my self the winner.
Lol.
Lower Margins = more volume and still profitable enough to exist
Exotic = cheaper, since lower margins and still profitable since higher volume
Less companies like leas fish in the seas and more to feed on little minnows, more volume, and appropriate prices.

It’s like the sleep number scam.
A $1,500 C2 = same air base as all the mattresses and 2" of plastic like poly foam

A $5,700 iLE uses 6" of poly foam with the same air base.


3rd party foams.
Less than a $50 cost to produce difference.

Polyurethane Foam = the cheapest foam to manufacture if I’m not mistaken?

Buy a 3" radium organic talalay latex topper for $400 from sleepez.fom
Tempurpedic 3" topper for $300 from tempurpedic.com
And a 6" cotton zippered mattress case for $200
$2,500 8" c2 now 14" now = better than the 6 inches or 12" of cheap polyurethane foam for $5,700.

And not to mention, air chambers are a scam. Unless the density or ILD (impression load deflection - The amount of weight or pressure required to compress the mattress to that extent of 25% or 1 inch) or density changes, it’s the same thing. It’s like a pool tube with cheap poly foam that you could build for like $200. Lol.

Use leggat and platt individual pocketed coils. All the $5,000 mattresses use those. sell those and the mattress cases are at mattresses.net or it’s called the Arizona Mattress store.

I’ve posted, too much in depth knowledge on industry stuff.

I’ll fear for my life if I post more.

Please stop egging me on?

Lol,
Thanks,
- Andy

If less companies then prices go up?
When there’s a whole, it’ll be filled.
If things change, then a factory direct company will show up to change things. And if there is collusion? And they threaten the factory direct company?
Then it’s legally wrong.
With out factory direct internet?
We’d be screwed.

We shouldn't be worried about less companies existing.

I assume unless there's collusion, they will compete like a fair market should.

There is probably collusion now, though.

- Andy

I am not familiar with intricacies of mattress architecture but I do know that some are more comfortable to sleep on than others. I do not have statistics how expensive which one was but more comfortable are worth more to me, regardless of what manufacturer’s cost was. It is on me to decide how much it is worth to me.


Of course we are going around and around in circles. That is the whole point of the circle. It goes around and around.

It is not hard for you to declare victory. You make a premise, support it by skewed/assumed facts, change what I say and say it was what I said, predict what would happen although it rarely has happened in similar scenarios, and judge it all by yourself. How could you lose?

Good news for the rest of us is that those who do not mind paying $70 000 for a speaker cable, still have options.

Bad news for many is that albuterol story is actually true.