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Paradigm Persona series

I'm beginning to poke around and gather opinions and information about a "super speaker" to replace my aging Thiel 2.4s.  I like the idea of bass dsp room correction and I am a bit of a point source type imaging nut (thus the Thiels).  So among other choices I've been looking at the Paradigm Persona series specifically the powered 9H with room correction for the bass.  However I'm skeptical of the "lenses" i.e. pierced metal covers on the midrange and tweeter specifically because of Paradigm's claim that such screens "screen out" "out of phase" musical information.  The technology in the design seems superlative but I just can't get past the claim re out of phase information and the midrange and tweeter covers.  What could possibly be the science behind this claim?  It just seems like its putting a halloween moustache on the mona lisa given the fact that the company is generally a technology driven company.
pwhinson
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audiotroy
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Ct you have a problem understanding we went through this with you before.

We said multiple times that when you heard the 9H on that day the system did not sound like it normally does.

In fact we agreed with you and if you remember we didnt want you to visit that day.

Later we found out that the tone controls on the preamp were engaged with the treble beIng raised along with a few other issues.

It would be entirely different if we thought the system sounded great on your visit.

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ctsooner
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No problems at all.  Jeff and I didn't always agree on things we heard.  We liked some of the same gear, but not all.  Both of us know what we heard with the 9H's and have heard at others places.  

This is now the first time you have brought up the tone control issue.  Didn't even realize the pre had tone controls.

Maybe you told Jeff not to come, but I never got that message as I wouldn't have bothered if I had know in advance.  

Those speakers have sounded the same in every room I've heard them in.  It's their house sound and if you are into that, it's awesome.  This is why we have different flavor speakers and gear.

You sell them and like them, or like the fact they sell (most probably both).  That's fine.  MANY of us find them very bright regardless of what you play them with and in what room.  

Again, not a big deal.
urbie19
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I went to listen to the 7F. I really wanted to like the persona series being Canadian at all since I am Canadian. But that beryllium Tweeter and midrange are so bright and edgy sounding they don't sound natural at all. the monitor audio Platinum series is much more natural three-dimensional sounding. And the width and depth of the soundstage is also much better with the platinum's. Paradigm has never been a high-end company they're trying but they still got a ways to go with that Tweeter and midrange.
contuzzi
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How the F$&K is this child not banned? 
Searching for any thread (this case, the latest reply being almost two months old) just to randomly bash persona and praise Monitor Audio.

Is there ANY moderating that goes on in this joke of a forum?
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ctsooner
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Contuzzi, it's his right.  We all have products that we own, or enjoy that we use as a reference since we are familiar with them.  

I do think that listeners need to really LISTEN and stop taking anything we all discuss on a board as the be all end of of their purchases.  One of the main things that the Persona fans talk about constantly is their need for proper component matching.  Heck, that's fair for most speakers and why some are now making their own electronics.  

Got to see Richard Vandersteen this weekend and he said ONE thing that stuck out more than anything.  It's something I was taught as a kid by a great store owner.  Bring 5 albums (or downloads) that you listen to and know.  My 5 are always male vocal, female vocal, acoustic bass, piano and something 70's rock (where they really rode the board for radio and not hi fi playback (it needs a lot of help, lol).  
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