The science of opinion ...

Say what you will about Ethan, but I am quite certain of something, if someone is spending real money to set up the acoustics for a professional studio, they certainly aren't going to be hiring geoffkait, not thyname, and sorry teo_audio, but outside your sphere of influence, not you either.  I also don't see respected and successful books on audio with your names on it either.

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with him on everything, not even everything in acoustics, but the average audiophile is going to learn far more about improving their sound from him, since most audiophiles, the vast majority, have acoustically deficient spaces ... and that applies to people with very expensive systems as well.  He also believes his expertise extends to all things audio, and I don't believe that is the case .... but like anyone on this thread is not guilty of that?


Sorry thyname, I don't believe for a moment that Ethan has numerous accounts that he posts under. That was a slander/libel created by one notorious vendor in the audiophile community, who used that to attempt to deflect his own dishonesty and inability to stand behind his claims. It it obvious from the posts, whether writing style or knowledge behind the posts, that they are not Ethan.


p.s. phys.org is a news aggregator of science oriented press releases. It is not where one does scientific research.

.... and for all this talk of "science", I wonder how many of you even took the time to read the article linked. I know at least one of you did not, which makes anything you write here just bluster.

Oh trust me on this.... I know from experience, at least on various FB groups, Ethan has several fake accounts. I reported one of them to FB, and it was deleted.

I have nothing against Ethan's acoustic panels. My "beef" is with him saying everything else is snake oil.

My acoustic treatments are via GIK. They were very helpful in helping me out with choices and placement.

p.s. phys.org is a news aggregator of science oriented press releases. It is not where one does scientific research.

That is not a quality deflection, IMO.

One finds the press release and one investigates.

That is how it works, if one has to deal with multiple fields. Not physorg specifically, but with science news aggregators. No one can read all the journals, there are too many of them and the fields intertwine too much to find it all in one area.

I hold this to be obvious, so your comment is strangely placed -to the logical and capable mind...

Physorg is a place where cross field feeding can be easily found, so it is a gold mine for translatable and transferable ideas and understandings that can illuminate in multiple connected fields.

Like Heinlein said, ’specialization is for insects’.

eg, speaker design crosses pretty well seven different branches of established engineering/physics. anyone can put a extant cheap radio speaker in a cardboard box ...

Or get into the complex build and physics of lets say...nanotechnology...or molecular bonding, and multiple branches of physics and science, a near unspeakable level of complexity..... all to build a cone, which will be dealing with complex forces in a complex motor in a complex environment.

Thus seven different branches of physics have to be mastered as a flowing intertwined set, to make the best that can be in the realm of loudspeakers. It requires, in olden terms, a ’renaissance man’, and in modern terms, an ’absolute unit’.

The question is, does the opinion and experience of the average of the bell curve in humans, does it possess the ability to tell the difference?

Yes, by simply listening and buying what they like.

But if one does the hard work, the involved work, and is called a charlatan (regardless of the perceived quality of the speaker [or amp, or cable, etc]) well...what then?

How to respond to an ignorance that does not possess the capacity to clear itself? There is no effective humane answer found for that one, as of yet -and likely never will be.

Yup, atdavid is Ethan Winer. No bout a doubt it. Even if he’s not he’s Ethan’s clone. 😳 😳

”Say what you will about Ethan” That’s gold, Jerry, gold! Please stop! My sides are splitting with laughter!