Everyone and his brother knows what an electron is. If you don’t Teo I suggest you consult Wikipedia.
What is wrong with audiophiles?
Something that has happened countless times happened again last night. Ordinary people over for a party listening to some music easily hear things audiophiles argue endlessly don't even exist. Oh, its worse even than that- they not only easily hear but are stunned and amazed at what they hear. Its absolutely clearly obvious this is not anything they ever were expecting, not anything they can explain- and also is not anything they can deny. Because its so freaking obvious! Happens every time. Then I come on here and read one after another not only saying its impossible, but actually ridiculing people for the audacity of reporting on the existence of reality.
What is wrong with audiophiles?
Okay, concrete examples. Easy demos done last night. Cable Elevators, little ceramic insulators, raise cables off the floor. There's four holding each speaker cable up off the floor. Removed them one by one while playing music. Then replaced them. Music playing the whole time. First one came out, instant the cable goes on the floor the guy in the sweet spot says, "OH! WTF!?!?!"
Yeah. Just one. One by one, sound stage just collapses. Put em back, image depth returns.
Another one? Okay.
Element CTS cables have Active Shielding, another easy demo. Unplug, plug back in. Only takes a few seconds. Tuning bullets. Same thing. These are all very easy to demo while the music is playing without interruption. This kills like I don' know how many birds with one stone. Auditory memory? Zero. Change happens real time. Double blind? What could be more double blind than you don't know? Because nobody, not me, not the listener, not one single person in the room, knows exactly when to expect to hear a change- or what change to expect, or even if there would be any change to hear at all. Heck, even I have never sat there while someone did this so even I did not know it was possible to hear just one, or that the change would happen not when the Cable Elevator was removed but when the cable went down on the floor.
We're talking real experience here people. No armchair theorizing. What real people really hear in real time playing real music in a real room.
I could go on. People who get the point will get the point. People who ridicule- ALWAYS without ever bothering to try and hear for themselves!- will continue to hate and argue.
What is wrong with audiophiles?
Something almost all audiophiles insist on, its like Dogma 101, you absolutely always must play the same "revealing" track over and over again. Well, I never do this. Used to. Realized pretty quickly though just how boring it is. Ask yourself, which is easier to concentrate on- something new and interesting? Or something repetitive and boring? You know the answer. Its silly even to argue. Every single person in my experience hears just fine without boring them to tears playing the same thing over and over again. Only audiophiles subject themselves to such counterproductive tedium.
What is wrong with audiophiles????
What is wrong with audiophiles?
Okay, concrete examples. Easy demos done last night. Cable Elevators, little ceramic insulators, raise cables off the floor. There's four holding each speaker cable up off the floor. Removed them one by one while playing music. Then replaced them. Music playing the whole time. First one came out, instant the cable goes on the floor the guy in the sweet spot says, "OH! WTF!?!?!"
Yeah. Just one. One by one, sound stage just collapses. Put em back, image depth returns.
Another one? Okay.
Element CTS cables have Active Shielding, another easy demo. Unplug, plug back in. Only takes a few seconds. Tuning bullets. Same thing. These are all very easy to demo while the music is playing without interruption. This kills like I don' know how many birds with one stone. Auditory memory? Zero. Change happens real time. Double blind? What could be more double blind than you don't know? Because nobody, not me, not the listener, not one single person in the room, knows exactly when to expect to hear a change- or what change to expect, or even if there would be any change to hear at all. Heck, even I have never sat there while someone did this so even I did not know it was possible to hear just one, or that the change would happen not when the Cable Elevator was removed but when the cable went down on the floor.
We're talking real experience here people. No armchair theorizing. What real people really hear in real time playing real music in a real room.
I could go on. People who get the point will get the point. People who ridicule- ALWAYS without ever bothering to try and hear for themselves!- will continue to hate and argue.
What is wrong with audiophiles?
Something almost all audiophiles insist on, its like Dogma 101, you absolutely always must play the same "revealing" track over and over again. Well, I never do this. Used to. Realized pretty quickly though just how boring it is. Ask yourself, which is easier to concentrate on- something new and interesting? Or something repetitive and boring? You know the answer. Its silly even to argue. Every single person in my experience hears just fine without boring them to tears playing the same thing over and over again. Only audiophiles subject themselves to such counterproductive tedium.
What is wrong with audiophiles????
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Everyone and his brother knows what an electron is. If you don’t Teo I suggest you consult Wikipedia. Wikipedia says it is a subatomic particle. the wiki entry for subatomic particle says: In the physical sciences, subatomic particles are particles much smaller than atoms.[1] The two types of subatomic particles are: elementary particles, which according to current theories are not made of other particles; Which means..theory. Electrons are a theory. As in: ’we don’t know’. That one theory interacts with this other theory and we think we (whatever a we is) know what an interaction is, but we really don’t know what this place is or what ’reality’ is. Reality... stubbornly remains undefined. Max Planck, in some writing, thought of it as an information field. Or one might say that it is defined as the least amount of capacity/energy to discern a differential. That reality is ...differential. That it is nothing but differential. Ie, pure holographic differential, discerning those differentials, if the idea of intelligence within it carries any water at all. For whatever that might be worth or mean. So..auguring facts when facts simply don’t exist, is kinda a fools game... Scientific laws? The height of insanity. Godel’s incompleteness theorem as an act in logic, dressed up an an illiterate projecting clown. We are a undefined thing measuring an undefined thing. It’s still turtles all the way down. When we actually read what physics says about it, this is exactly what it says. Undefined. Unknown. Science the heck out of it all you want but...the logic remains, at the limit of definition.....limited. Circular. Confined due to this fabric issue.. and not of all things, as it simply can’t be -as stated by the logic of the very the idea of science and physics. Granted, it is a big load line with lots of dots on it and a nice line drawn through it..but the ends and the space around it are still a fog. It hangs in a undefined space of...who knows what. Just sayin, you know...just sayin...so...don’t get too hot about this or that, as it is all underpinned by...unknown. |
"The two types of subatomic particles are: elementary particles...Did they forget to write the other type? |
And once again GK is wrong. Usually your "wrongness" is buried in stuff that seems right, but this time, You are all wrong. It is like you don’t even understand or know about the "Hall Effect" ... Yes, this time I will link to Wikipedia, as it will be at a level you may understand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect p.s. Current is defined as charge movement, and since the + charges are fixed, the - charges must move ... oh, and they are electrons. None of this is related to your also wrong impressions of how the fields that generate energy Vectors are arrived at by the way. geoffkait18,240 posts11-14-2019 11:14amatdavid gets partial credit. Sadly, I do not dispense prizes for partial credit. In the case of the TV degaussing affects the picture quality, that’s true, by getting rid of stray magnetic fields - produced mostly by current moving through wires. But the mistake in logic is that current is not electrons. The picture quantity is not a function of electrons, which are fairly constant in number at any point in the system and any point in time. In the case of audio cables, electrons are not affected by magnets, as I described already, but the audio signal is. Anyone not following raise your hand. |
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