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Why does my old CD player sound so much better than my new streamer?

Earlier this year I upgraded my system. Briefly, new Prima Luna Dialogue Premium HP integrated, new Lumin D2 streamer/DAC, kept my Tekton speakers, bought a 10 year old Muse Erato CD player, new Nordost Red Dawn cables all around.  After plenty of break in, the Lumin D2 streaming Tidal, even 24/96, does not sound close to as good as the Muse Erato.  I understand the Muse was about $10k new years ago, I paid $650 for it on Audiogon, is that the difference? It replaced my Naim I had for 20+ years and I bought it on the chance I want to listen to something not on Tidal, but now I'm going to CDs when I want to sit and listen instead of streaming. I considered upgrading to the Lumin T2, but will that be more of the same Lumin sound, which is accurate but thin and a little cold compared to the Muse.  I like the Lumin when just letting Tidal shuffle music as I move around the house, but from the opening note in an A/B test the Muse just sounds so much warmer, live and simply more enjoyable. Any thoughts or suggestions?
fsgattuso
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bo1972"AudioFacts is an official & respected dealer...The modified products however, we only support warrantee on the original parts. AudioFacts is responsible for all the parts which they have changed.

That is exactly the factual information I have been alerting users hear to if you have bo19722 modify you're Lumin equipment you will find the warrantee will not be honored, respected, or upheld by the manufacturer and you will have to rely and depend on bo1972's store to assess, address, and correct you're problem leaving you without the support you would otherwise enjoy from the manufacturer and you will have no recourse, alternative, or option to correct the problem that originates with the modification made to the equipment by bo1972.
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fsgattuso
hope that you are still enjoying spinning CDs out there.
Happy Listening!
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So I’m new to most discussions herr although I admittedly lurk about for information; so many bright and informative perspectives on all kinds of gear. Here’s my question... I have a very modest older setup that I like to listen to late night. Have some Linn Keilidh & AR 10pi speakers, Tandberg 3012 and Yamaha CA-810 integrateds, Luxman TT (various carts) and an SAE parametric EQ. I move this gear in and out in various combinations but really enjoy all of it. I had a Meridian portable DAC at one time but passed it on to my son. Was an easy enough piece to add to my kit and thought it provided a notable difference in most formats. I have the opportunity to pick up a Muse Model 2 DAC for small change. I know back to when it was introduced it was/is a pretty serious piece when paired with a transport. Anyone have experience streaming with this unit and if so how did it perform? I also use an Apple AE to stream lossless through my iPad and use Tidal which I find pretty good. I can take the Muse home for a test drive too which is nice... I can form my own opinion on the component but just curious if anyone has a similar system using a Model 2 or older Muse DAC in the same configuration. Thanks!
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zedmark97
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I came here to learn some experience；）
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bo1972" AudioFacts is responsible for all the parts which they have changed"

Good luck getting bo or anyone to fix his badly modified amplifiers! 
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