Jazz for aficionados

“Disingenuous”. Nice. Must you go there? 

What does “feeling relaxed” have to do with “consider(ing) the audience when they play. The appreciation level of the audience.”? If in fact those dancers were to feel “life changing” pressure when performing at home how does that compare to what Miles might feel playing for a college crowd? Moreover, those dancers may have given a more inspired performance because they were relaxed.

You don’t understand what it means to an artist to maintain. artistic integrity and, with respect, you’re mixing up different considerations. May I ask how many performers you have spoken to about this?

***** Moreover, those dancers may have given a more inspired performance because they were relaxed.*****

My point exactly.   You make my argument for me.   I just said the audience can and do effect the performers.

***** If in fact those dancers were to feel “life changing” pressure when performing at home how does that compare to what Miles might feel playing for a college crowd?*****

If Stalin is your critic, you are perfect or in the gulag.   That may affect your performance.

Miles, I don't know the man, MAY have thought these guys wouldn't know great Jazz if it fell on them.   That may affect his performance.   He may have gotten sloppy, he may have been 'relaxed' and played inspired Jazz.   Does not matter.   My point is who you play for can affect how and what you play.

I am sure personality plays a part.   Miles may have not given a F*** who was present, he just played what he felt like playing.

But I tend to think that if he showed up a venue to play, and in the first row of the audience sat, Coltrane, Ellington, Monk, Armstrong, Bird and Lee Morgan.   I think if would affect him.   I could be wrong.

***** May I ask how many performers you have spoken to about this?  *****

Miles, Trane and I lost contact years ago.   One got lost, one turned into Sinbad.  

Cheers

case in point:

https://www.pbs.org/keepingscore/shostakovich-symphony-5.html

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**** My point exactly.  You make my argument for me.  I just said the audience can and do effect the performers. ****

Rok, you are  going around in circles.  Of course the performer reacts to the audience.  I made that clear in my very first response to the idea that “performing in Japan is not about the music”: a ridiculous contention.  Reaction to the audience does not mean the music will be inferior. as was suggested.  

**** Miles, I don't know the man, MAY have thought these guys wouldn't know great Jazz if it fell on them. ****

What you are not understanding is that none of the above means that a performer with artistic integrity will, in any way, compromise the quality of the music or his performance; “showboating” being one example.  That was the original and mistaken contention.   Why don’t you  worry a little less about being “correct” and a little more about understanding the very interesting nuances in all this.  Great artists  care about the quality of the art first and foremost; the audience comes after.  

Shostakovich:

Case in point? Hardly. It is a great symphony!!! 
Again, you’re mixing and conflating issues. Did artists live in fear during Stalin’s Russia? Yes, a well documented fact; many left for America. So, what does that have to do with the main argument? Proponent of “the great unwashed” determining the ultimate value in music? Was Stalin the great unwashed? Seems to me he was the elite. Unfortunately, the one with ultimate power.  You are confusing thematic content and style with artistic quality. How does any of this relate to do with Miles playing Jazz to an audience? 

https://youtu.be/ghj5V5cUo1s