I knew that would get a rise out of you, nubbins. As soon as I wrote it. It’s Pavlovian! 🐶 It’s also ESP. By the way, I can’t help noticing your grammar and spelling are kind of falling apart recently. Are you OK? Are you going the way of Lizzie? I hope not.
The Truth About Power Cords and there "Real" Price to Performance
This is a journey through real life experiences from you to everyone that cares to educate themselves. I must admit that I was not a believer in power cords and how they affect sound in your system. I from the camp that believed that the speaker provided 75% of the sound signature then your source then components but never the power cord. Until that magic day I along with another highly acclaimed AudioGoner who I will keep anatomist ran through a few cables in quite a few different systems and was "WOWED" at what I heard. That being said cable I know that I am not the only believer and that is why there are so many power cord/cable companies out there that range from $50 to 20-30 thousand dollars and above. So I like most of you have to scratch my head and ask where do I begin what brand and product and what should i really pay for it?
The purpose of this discussion to get some honest feed back on Price to Performance from you the end user to us here in the community.
Please fire away!
The purpose of this discussion to get some honest feed back on Price to Performance from you the end user to us here in the community.
Please fire away!
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atdavid ... a blind test is not a sighted test ...Agreed! They are two different things. In a true blind test, neither those conducting the test nor the subject of the test know exactly what is under evaluation at any given moment. But if anyone involved in the test actually knows what is under evaluation at any given time - and they know this because they can "see" - then it isn’t a true proper blinded test: blind/blīnd/adjective ...
Anyone who has any experience running tests with subjective results has used single blind testing ...I don’t know whether that claim is true or not, but you make a fair point. The results of a "single blind" test are subjective, not objective, because the test doesn’t even try to control for all the known variables. That doesn’t mean the test has no value, so there’s no need for you to feel such hurt over this. But its value is limited to about the same extent as other sighted tests. Perhaps that limitation is not nearly so severe as some believe. It’s confounding to me why you refuse to acknowledge the difference between "blind" and "sighted." Perhaps you simply seek to continue argumentation. |
So it appears there is no way to set up a "scientific" test test that will make everyone happy audiophiles will be debating this for the rest of time............. But what about doing something simpler? Just prove to yourself which cable is best for your system (blinded). Have a friend swap the cables for you and you listen and decide what the differences are. If there is an audible change it should be obvious without you having to look at your friends face to try and cheat and get a clue. It doesn’t even have to give a statistically significant outcome. If you tend to like one over the other that is the cable to use. This test would be best if you have some different demo cables to pick from. After you already spent big bucks on a cable it will be more risky. Its not fun to find out you like a cheaper cable but like everyone said cables are system dependent. There is no reason a cheaper cable might not sound better. Also, this test will not prove anything to others, It will just give you more confidence that you picked the best cable for your system. Regardless of cost, how fancy and thick it looks, or biased audio reviews. |
delkal ... it appears there is no way to set up a "scientific" test test that will make everyone happy ...I don’t think that’s true. The protocols for a controlled, scientific, double-blind listening test have already been established. They can be cumbersome, so some seek a shortcut to the protocols, which is fine, of course. The only issue is when they also proclaim that their compromised test is as valid as a properly controlled test. That’s a truly odd claim, but there are only one or two people here asserting it. What is subject to debate is the actual value of a proper controlled, scientific, double-blind listening test. That debate will continue as long as audiophiles inhabit the planet. ... what about doing something simpler? Just prove to yourself which cable is best for your system (blinded). Have a friend swap the cables for you and you listen and decide ... If you tend to like one over the other that is the cable to use.I think that’s exactly what some audiophiles do. Some make it even simpler and omit the blind cable swap altogether. |
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