Vimberg Speakers
Spinaker we agree with you which is why we are going with the Vimbergs. The reality is that Vimberg is offering about 90% of the sound of the Tidals for about 1/2 the price. The idea of Vimberg was to carefully make some cost cutting changes that would allow for easier and faster build while retaining much of the same sound quality. At Cap and Axpona we have heard both the Vimbergs and Tidals, the Vimberg setup at Axpona in our mind sounded better than the Tidal setups that werre shown previoulsly. One difference was the room in the Vimberg Axpona demo the speakers were in a very large room and pulled far into the room, while the Tidal demos were in smaller room much closer to the rear wall, also in some yearrs the setups were Bricasti amps and digital vs the Tidal electronics which we think are more musical. Larry5729 in what way are the tweeter and and midrange drivers any less "beautiful than anything else." Step we have never been fans of the Constellation gear, many people in the industry think Consetellation gear is okay but hardly amazing. The Lumin X1 is exceptional and can go directly into a power amplifier. The T+A PA 3100 integrated has more than enough omph to drive almost any speaker to very loud levels, it is 300 watts into an 8 ohm load and 500 watts into a 4 ohm load. The tonality of the T+A gear is neutral with a slightly warm midrange, and a big full bass sound, we have yet to find a set of loudspeakers which it fails to sound fantastic with. Dave and Troy Audio Doctor NJ |
I have always wondered why some speaker manufacturers design their speakers as 4 ohm rather than 8 ohm speakers. Since 4 ohm require about double the current this limits the kind of amplifier you need to drive them and I would imagine a 4 ohm is less efficient and perhaps they tend to generate more distortion. Kind of like driving a 600 horsepower car at 65 mph vs driving a 300 horsepower car at the same speed. Is there an advantage for designing a 4 ohm speaker knowing this. I wonder if then a 4 ohm speaker provides a more dynamic response. An 8 ohm speaker would I would think require turning up the volume much less than using 4 ohm speakers. This also said, I wonder why amplifier and receiver manufacturers do not talk more about current/amperage verses watts when current is actually the most important specification. Amplifier manufacturers usually try to hide the specifications for amperage numbers because the numbers are lower than watts. Hope you do not feel this to be a stupid question. This certainly gives away my being a beginner compared to knowledge and experience this group has. This said, I have been amazed by the knowledge this group has. I have also been amazed by the willingness to teach and share their knowledge. |
@willmacc, it's always hard to listen to evaluate a system as something so simple as speaker cable or the room itself can totally ruin the experience, so if you don't have previous experience with the components or the place, you don't know what you're listening to... Thanks for your suggestion for the Falcon, I will see if I can hear them somewhere but from my experience, I have never been keen on ribbon tweeters. @larry5729, they do list their specifications on their page https://vimberg.de/mino/ They sell for about 26K euros in Europe for the ceramic tweeter and basic finish. Add 2k for piano lacquer and I think about 8k for Diamond tweeter. Concerning your question, I don't find it stupid since I am wondering the same thing. I think in HIFI, it's always a matter of compromises. They probably do this to achieve something else on another level. @audiotroy So for you, a good setup would be lumin x1 - T+A PA 3100 - Vimberg Mino? When will you receive the Amea? Would you recommend something else with similar spirit? |
