~~~Premium~~~ AU's,,,,well I kinda of think they area special design AU = very unlike the short bottle = designed to push the AU to its very limits.
I say thise because i'd bet any other short bottle would not match the magic of the Big Boys (=Tall Bottle = PSQe80CC). From the way these Philips ((((= same factory as Amperex = Amperex makes the tube FOR Philips = still i consider it Philips and not Amperex..why? because Philips engineers had something to do with the design = NOT Amperex)))
Considering how well these *mini watts SQ sounded,,i went and bid/won a whole bunch of Philips Miniwatts AX's today on ebay,,,any of you bidding, yeah it wwas I out bidding you. I havea nice stash and will only need 4, the other 10 I will sell at a nice price..I am gambling on the PSQAX, that is also merits the magic of its bigger brother the E80CC = The tall boy.
I'm guessing on a hunch,,we will see in some weeks (comming from Swizerland).
It will be a shootout
New design Shugaung 12AX7T vs Philips NOS Miniwatt AX.
Repeating what i wrote above and other threads here on audiogon/also on DIYer forum,
The PSQ E80CC is the center piece of my entire system, = SEAS Thos/Cayin 17/jadis Defy are all dependent and revolve around the
~~~PSQE80CC.~~
= w/o the PSQE80CC, the entire system is dead.
At least with this Lite LS9 chinese pre,,,, = lets add a Prima Luna pre with 6 au's, using any NOS tube (other than the PSQ),,,or the cayin SC6 pre,,,its quite possible the system will come to life.
But lets think about it, I havea serious weakness in my system, the Lite LS9 clone Jadis 200, (weighs 10 lbs vs the real deal Jadis pre weighs 50+ lbs) anyway,,if the PSQ can make magic with this weak pre,,,think what 6 PSQ ina Prima Luna or 4 in the cayin SC6 would do???
Unthinkable. Off the charts..
I suggest, if someone is considering buyinga tube amp/pre,,make sure has AU section. When the Philips Miniwatts AX's (= PMWAX hench forth) arrive i am curious how much the Shugaung is adding to the system (or taking away) and how the PMWAX performed.
This way I can determine to what degree the PSQE80CC is carrying the magic.
That is, if i can not hear much dif twix the Shu vs the PMWAX,,then i know for certian, it really does not matter which AX is employed, AS LONG AS THE AU section has the PSQE80CC, as The Critical Pre Tube.
I believe it was lowrider57 who mentions the AU is the critical tube for a tube amp.
That is more can be gained froma true high fidelity AU than a true high fidelity AX. I agree.
The AU section holds the key position ijna tube amp. I will go futher,,,w/o a true high fidelity AU, it really does not matter what AX's/power tubes one is running.
Let me be clear, a $500 pair Tele or Siemens in the AX section along with *Holy Grails* power tubes,,,will not make much of a ~~splash~~~ until one emplys a true high fidelity AU,,the top dog THF(= truehighfidelity = no snakeoil/no hype= The real deal) is the PSQE80CC. all other AU's (yes even the Siemens/Tele $$$$$$$$$ Holy Grail AU's) will lose in a shootout with
~~The Big Boys~~ = PSQE80CC.
as I say my system's true center piece in not Jadis, not SEAS, not cayin, but the PSQE80CC holds center stage. It is the Sun in my system;s solar system.
All else are like planets revolving around the PSQE80CC.
Hope some of this can be understood.
,,later