BEST HARMLESS/SIGNATURELESS SPEAKERS CAPACITORS.


Dear friends:I really need your helpwith first hand experiences with speaker crossover capacitors founded in next main experiences/tested premises: for a 3-way speaker design, high resolution audio systems, very low distortion audio systems, wide systems frequency range, " zero trade-offs ".

I know that the best capacitor is NO-capacitor, well I need your near to that full experiences with another desired premises from you: audio systems using SS electronics and mainly listening MUSIC through digital sources.

All your opinions/help are appreciated.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.


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Dear @cal3713  : """   but I do hear a difference between different fuse..."""

of course you herad it, almost any one can listen the differences between fuses but that's not the main subject but if those fuse changes really helps for the MUSIC rigthness not only gives " colorations ".

Same for the boutique capacitors that any one can listen its diferences in between and again that's not the main subject.

I know almost for sure that those added boutique caps colorations are only that colorations/distortions that does not exist in the recording but we like it and for me those " nice colorations " are not part ofthe real MUSIC.

Tidal 200K speaker is a good example on how a speaker manufacturer use those caps as a " tone " devices " as a " tone control " when the main target in a speaker crossover capacitor certainly is not to be used as a tone devices.

Tidal use 5 diferent caps to make exactly that and at least for me or tghose accuton drivers are really bad or the overall design of the speakers is not good enough. Of course I can be wrong but I can't find out rational explanations for those " design and driver behaviors " .

I think that those boutique caps and fuses are used only in audio and in specific in the " high-end " market niche. Said I " high-end "? becaUSE RIGTH NOW COULD BE ANYTHING BUT TRUE HIGH-END. It's full of snake oil devices that we all love it but sooner or latter we can learn about if we are willing to learn, we need the rigth attitude for learn something where we thing we already learned when it's not that way as we like to think.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
Dear @paulcreed  @cal3713  and friends: Temptation was to much and before I changed the woofer crossover caps I made a " little " change in my speaker tweeters and put my hands to work where my mouth/talk is and due that I have several Wima caps these are the ones I changed instead the Alumen Z that were the ones connected down there.

I'm listening and making my self test whole evaluation process and before I post the results I would like that if you can do it,  due that Wima caps are totally inexpensive ,  then do it with your speaker tweeters only with out other blending caps for that crossover filter.

IMHO and even that your tweeters are diferent from mines is a must for any one to make this simple test speaker evaluation devices.
Then you can come here to share your first hand experiences about.

Believe me, it's worth to do it and don't be worried because the wima very low price range, an entry cap condition. At the end could be a learning lesson or a confirmation of something that we think we know. Who knows?

The ones I'm using are the MKP 10 160v and 5% tolerance.

Thank's in advanceand best wishes for that kind of change.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
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and remember that for the price of one  " high end " capacitor you can buy all the WIMA capacitors you need for your two speakers whole crossovers ! ! ! 

I already bought the ones for my woofers and midranges. Rigth now I'm using Wima in the tweeters crossover and band-pass ones with out buy nothing because I had those values.

Again, not only both of you but any one must try the Wima ( filter by filter. ) in your speakers. At the end the only thing you can lost is the time to make the unsolder/solder caps in the crossovers and the " excercise could be interesting to do it.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

@rauliruegas

May I know what are the original capacitors in your speaker crossovers and what is the reason you want to replace them?
Rigth now I’m using Wima in the tweeters crossover and band-pass
Can you hear any difference?

Thanks and regards

Dear @imhififan   : My speakers are heavely up-graded but are old ones by ADS and the original caps, resistors and inductors if I remember has no " name " builder or maybe yes but I can't remember for sure.

I have first hand experiences with Duelund, Mundorf, Sonicaps, V-caps, Mit, Jantzen and other caps. All of them with really high prices per piece.

Wima is the standard not only in the audio industry but in almost any industry market segment.

Open any amplifier or preamp and you will see full of Wima caps down there. Should be because exist proved reasons to use those Wima caps.

Last week I decided to test Wima though my tweeters due that I have many wima caps that I changed in the past in system electronics, not the ones I own today.

I changed in the tweeter crossovers instead the Jantzen Alumen Z and even that I'm still making the evaluation I can attest in the tested time that I'm totally surprised with the MKP 10.
Where the Alumen Z are " neutral " the MKP 10 are true neutral and colorless/signatureless other than the MUSIC intrinsec color and yesd I heard and I'm hearing differences: important ones.

I was not prepared for what I'm listening rigth now because you pay " penauts " for a Wima caps against big dollars for the boutique caps that can't honor that colorless because all those heavy priced caps unfortunatelly adds " colorations/distortions ".

Till now the Wima in my system and through the tweeter and band-pass ( midrange.tweeter. ) crossover filters works great and at higher quality levels that the " other " caps or any thing I listened before in my system and in other systems.

Examples: around the middle of number two track in the original soundtrack of Gladiator you can listen the sound between swords when one hit the other.
Well in the Jantzen sounds really good but through the Wima you stay with out words to explain it: just outstanding if you consider that the Alumen Z are really good quality performers. Outstanding because the sound is not only precise but truer sound with a rigthness dificult to explain it and dificult to beats it.

In the Lyn Stanley Potions recording and in the very first track in the first minute ( at the end of that first minute. )  that started the track we can listen a very delicated high frequency strokes in a triangle, very delicated and with the Wima exist a very high definition with a precense so vivid ( not organic. ) that you can't be in other way but impressed for it.

Other " moments " are in the Telarc 1812 Overture where around 30 seconds before the first 5 cannon shots you can listen in the " long distance " the sound of a tambourine with perfect purity and after those shots comes the carillon sound that any one of you will die for till you listen to with Wima caps.

That's why I decided to bought the caps for my woofers and midranges. I will go " slowly " step by step to can be totally sure on the whole wima caps subject.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.