Jadis Defy can't sing with super high Fidelity PART 2


Why part 2?
Because she sings now, why?
Just arrived
Shugaung 12AX7T's from HK, dealer Douk audio,
WOWWW, unreal, IMHO no other 12AX7 comes even close to these Shugaung T's,. I mean this Defy in spite of the cheap chinese mock  Jadis 200 pre, the Defy has come to a  glorious resolution. 
I had no idea the front tubes were so so vital toa  sound ofa  tube amp.
I am using new Psvane's 12AU7 in the front, 4 12AX7T's just behind.
UNREAL. 



I will makea  YT vid today, and post it, and try to post a  link here.

https://www.amazon.com/Matched-Shuguang-12AX7-T-Premium-High-end/dp/B01EFYT84U
I put my bet on these Shugaung 12AX7T's in a  shootout with every NOS EU 12AX7, any and all ina  shootout,
in 5 seconds or LESS the Shugaung would blow the entire bunch of  Siemens, Tele, Amperex, Mullards, all with ONE SHOT, .
These Shu are the quickest , most accurate, gun shooter in the west. 
mozartfan
well i am happy with  the PSQE80CC, ,, I'm seekinga  great AX.
I have the Shu T' series, really fantastic looking build,,,have some Philips Miniwatts comming anda  friend is sending me his fav the RCA tall grey plate,,not sure which design,,Hopefully its like the RCA/Baldwin/1957's,, what a great beefy looking build. 
He says it is what i am looking for..so that will bea  shootout with 3 top design tubes. ,,I'll post the results.,,,I am only keeping  1 quad,, the other 2 will be sold off. ,,my days of collecting tubes are over. . 
Now i am working on finding a  super special 12AX7 for the Defy 7,,,no, not just any old AX,,I am looking for the Holiest of Holy Grails. 
RCA long greys?
PQ amperex?
Shugaung T series? 
No one can say for sure unitl i roll these 3 pairs in 3 weeks. Will post findings. 
Only 1 gets the cigar,,the other 2 are set for the chopping block. I don't collect tubes, sorry, those days are gone, You go ahead and collect, Not me, 1 set is all i need

OK, she's singing now, and I have alotttttt of mods/upgrades to make in my entire system. 
I want 1st off to thank whoever mentioned that the AU section tubes is the biggest gain for pre amp section, NOt the AX section, he is correct, when i swapped out the AU's for E80CC's, the sound fq resolution increased DRAMATICALLY, Like Night to bright sunshine.
The AX section, I am not hearing much a  dif twix, Siemesb  $$$$$$$ tubes vs any old AX (except NOT cheap chinese and russian AX's which are both worthless trash). 
All NOS tubes made in the late 50's, 60's are ALL EQUAL IMHO, = Do not drink the snakeoil about Siemens. Sure they area miniscle better, possibly,,I am in a  long testing period of AX;s. 
At the end of the testing, in about 4 months,, it is my belief my theory of ALL NOS AX;'s are EQUAL,,will prove true. 
The real deal ina  AU/AX pre section is the critical AU's. as someone here , maybe in this thread, mentioned is the CRITICAL tube in the Jadis Defy7. 
= no need to spend $$$$$$$ in the AX section, any old NOS, RCA/Amperex, Tele, Siemens/Philosp, Syvania, etc etc,,will work just fine..

My purpose of this post is to take some of the snakeoil out the sellers market in *Holy grail* AX tubes. Its all bunk, snakeoil.
The true Holy Grail is the Crwon Jewel of all AU's, the E80CC.
I have Siemens  and Philips SQ. 
The Siemens givea  miniscule edge over the Philips = Equal.
ou can see and hear my stereo in action
@3:30 is a  shot of the incredible 
~~~SUPER TUBE~~~~
The E80CC.
Tungstom, Philips, Tele, Siemens, = Equal. 
AX's NOS = Equal, save your cash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh9nf1GTM9Y



Mahler, what are your components? I'd like to see a pic of your amp if possible. I couldn't really see the layout of the tube stages. What output tubes are you using?
Ok I'm back from Dinner
Now if we havea  tech guy take 
5 dif ax's, all NOS, amperex/Tele/Siemens/RCA's etc.
and have each tested,,
and lets say all test within a fraction of each other in every area.
The tech guy will say they will be near equal in a  socket. 
If we are talking about miniscule dif, why should we believe its worth it to pay, <<Holy grail>> prices?
As I say, my preamp is holding back my system, and until that is rectified, i really can not make accurate testings in the AX's shoot out.
There ae AX long plates ad short plates, 
Here is where I hope to makea testing. 
I am curious if the long plates issue a  higher resolution in fq's. 
But then again, long is onlya  fraction taller than so called <short> plates, 
As I say, with my preamp holding back the entire system's sensitivity, it will be some time before i can make any conclusive statements upon these ideas.
Others who have rolled AX's for years, may know something and hopefully will chime in to help us on this slippery slope. And so we can determine which is snakeoil, and what is ~~The real deal~~~