Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
128x128jafant
I am not arguing about the technical merits of time-phase coherent. I am only arguing about Thiel business model as if it is financially viable. I would not criticize PSB or B&W as they are able to find a way to be viable even if using a different design strategy. To me it seems like Thiel had put themselves a bit into a corner with such a singular mindset - that is first order time-phase coherent or all else which may be correct technically, but financially, it did not have a way out.
Or perhaps Thiel had been successful *because* of the "singular mindset". Thiel speakers were (and are) unique, well-executed, and great sounding. And when Jim Thiel passed without any other engineer among the small business’ staff, subsequently bought by people with no experience in the industry (who steered the company completely away from Jim Thiel’s design principles), it was predictable that Thiel Audio would fail. We’re talking about *Thiel* Audio.

B&W is part of a much larger company. Can you name any of their engineers? I know Laurence Dickie designed the Nautilus but I can’t name any current engineer at B&W. Will Vivid stand after Dickie passes? What do you think will happen when Richard Vandersteen passes? Jeff Joseph? It looks like Wilson Audio is making a go of it with Dave Wilson’s son as the main engineer. ARC successfully transitioned from Bill Johnson and Ayre is making it work with Ariel Brown. But it’s not great for a small audio company to lose its founder and primary designer.

I suppose Mark Mason could have been more successfully plugged into Thiel Audio if Jim Thiel had designed me-too speakers. But, then, would Thiel Audio ever have been successful at all? Would we be on this thread talking about our Thiel speakers? Loving them? Modifying them to get even better performance?


It is nice to imagine innovations to the Thiel speakers but to really make this happen will take a considerable investment. I'm curious how many of us have resources to share to assist Tom in his pursuit and would be able to commit to make this a success. Tom is not immortal and will need support and cheering if not some simple help to verify the accuracy of his observations. I am very willing to contribute to such an initiative and am wondering if there are others. You can privately contact me if you prefer.
beetlemania
Excellent points all around. Ayre is successful due to Ryan Berry , Aerial Brown and Gary Mulder. Sure, the engineer has to be on-point, as well as, the business manager (CEO), customer service manager.

Happy Listening!
thielrules
Right On!  I wished that I lived closer to Rob or Tom.  Members of the Panel feel free to chime in if located near these gentlemen. I am certain that additional assistance would be appreciated.

Happy Listening!
2nd Note;
A special Thank You to the DIY members of the Panel. Your hard work and passion,  to make Thiel loudspeakers better,  does not go unnoticed.
Happy Listening!