Moving cables around killed dynamics for days anyone else experience this?


I've been experimenting with different cables between components. Nothing sounds right since trying to improve sound with new mix of cables. There is no bass and boring, highs are okay but life is gone from system. So I flipped everything back the way it was still sound horrible. Ran everything 24/7 for a couple days still no go. Let it run a couple more days dynamics are back and bass is full big and has tone again and enjoyable to listen to. Can someone tell me why this happens. I've also moved just speaker cables around without unhooking them and seen this happen, I don't get it.
paulcreed
You can listen to Miller and believe his guesses at how things work, or you can verify what I have written is what has been learned by people who actually have spent years, decades researching these things whether in psycho-acoustics or other fields of human perception. Unfortunately, some people refuse to learn from or accept the knowledge that academic oriented researchers generate (except when it helps their point of view).

YES soundstage is a macro effect. Soundstage comes predominantly from timing, but also from relative loudness. Timing is picked up from the leading edge of the loudest sounds. Even relative loudness is based on current loudest sounds. This is going to all be in the top 20-40db of your dynamic range, not buried 70,80+db down (or more) in some effect that may or may not exist with cable settling.

I am sorry this is a first for you Miller. I have not seen much evidence you keep up on the latest in psycho-acoustics, so that could be the reason for that. Others are not are uninformed.

Wow. So when you haven’t heard it in a while you forget what you learned so when you hear it again you have to learn it all over again but this time it happens instantly because, magic. Fascinating.

I knew my statement would give certain people "difficulty". Today you are accustomed to one form of "crap" for lack of better term. If you look at most people’s room response, "crap" is probably an appropriate term. Change something and you have a new form of "crap" which is significantly different from the old "crap", and it is made worse by the expectation often of "better". Human psychology does that to us. Our disappointment is influenced by our expectation. Don’t listen for a while and the brain goes back to a baseline that is somewhere in the middle of "crap-1" and "crap-2" so does not sound as bad. We have also had time to get over our initial disappointment. Now that we start to actively listen to this "new" system, our brain has the ability to start adapting and we start liking it more.

Douglas_Schroeder is 100% correct, and likely
"You may disagree, but I am not going to argue about it. :) "
because he is tired of people who have relatively little experience setting up a diversity of systems and refuse to learn or accept how we as humans behave. I can certainly understand his frustrations.

Nobody is saying we "believe" what we are saying is WE HEAR! "WE" hear.
No, what you are saying is your brain takes in all this auditory sensory data, adds in visual data (and other senses), compares it to highly faulty memories, then attempts to arrive at a perceptive result that is influenced by your biased interpretations of knowledge you have been exposed to which includes biases however developed, emotional attachment to a desired result, influence by people you choose to believe, peer influence, etc. and then add on top of that the modifiers of mood that day, stress level, etc. etc. .... and the end result is a claim "I hear this". What exactly did you hear? It is like proudly proclaiming to have taken the navy sock out of the sock drawer, only to find out they are actually black when in different lighting, and not only claiming they are navy blue, but the exact match to the other navy blue sock you took out 10 minute ago ... which they turn out not to be when you see them side by side.
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Audiozen with the problems setting up this system and adding panels was tricky I did finally correct the sound. Bass was full and highs detailed and airy. I decided to add silver interconnect between tube pre and amp, change to copper between phono pre and Preamp and leave digital as is. I never moved the speakers. After moving interconnects around that's when bass and air was lost. So only conclusion I can come to is moving wire around did affect the sonics of this system.
Cables are a dodgy subject. They require break-in. They require settling in. Their connectors even require settling in. They require correct direction. They should be isolated from vibration and static electric fields. They should be demagnetized. They should also be de-staticized. They should be cryo’d. Any objections? Let ‘er rip!
You don’t lose bass when moving cables. It just does not happen. If you truly lost bass, you have some corrosion issues or as Erik_Squires pointed out, a piece of equipment that has warm-up issues, though that seems unlikely unless you are using tube-equipment and something is out of whack / tubes are getting old.

After moving interconnects around that’s when bass and air was lost.

Thinking about this another way, you may not be loosing bass, you may have a high frequency emphasis that is going away which also happens with equipment warm-up.  An initial high frequency emphasis will make the bass seem weak.  Again, taking cables on/off, unless you have serious corrosion issues will make almost no difference in frequency response (think small fractions of a db).