New Old Thiel CS6 Speakers--Too Harsh


Hi All,

New pair of Thiel CS6 Speakers. First true pair of 'audiophile' speakers (...still might go back to my Kappa 7's and 8's).

Imaging and that 'holographic' sound is pretty good on the Thiels but not as good as the JBL 4312a's.  But again I am plagued by harshness in my system. It seems detail and excellent spatial performance just equates to brittle, harsh and painful in my room. I like to listen at rather loud volumes.

Frequencies that appear to be the problem are between 2khz all the way up to 16khz. If I EQ the system is listenable. 

The other issue the Thiels seem to have is out of phase low bass due to the passive radiator. Can anyone confirm this?

Here is my setup right now:
Modwright Oppo 105d (physical media and streaming)
Sonic Frontiers Line 2 preamp
Conrad-Johnson Premier 350 
14x17 room, on concrete slab carpeted with additional thick throw rug, heavy velour drapes over windows, bare walls and cd/record shelves, nothing on the ceiling.

What is causing the tizzy sharpness in my system/room?

So far the Infinity Kappa Series with its ribbon tweeters has sounded best in my room. The 8's are very impactful and tonally very complete. The 7's are close, not quite as impactful but have better imaging due to lower tweeter height. 

....and I don't want truth. I want beauty.

:-)

Thanks!


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brettmcee

Thank You for the update. I am looking forward to the B.A.T. / Sunfire comparison.  Have fun!

Happy Listening!
uncle_monkey

Should you decide to re-engage those Thiel speakers, join us, over on the Thiel Owners thread. I look forward in reading more about your musical tastes and system.

Happy Listening!
uncle_monkey

Should you decide to re-engage those Thiel speakers, join us, over on the Thiel Owners thread. I look forward in reading more about your musical tastes and system.

Happy Listening!
I did pop over there a few weeks back. I'm excited to see if they're up to snuff. But as I mentioned unfortunately I recall one of them was having an issue - buzzing midrange IIRC. I had written them off with the demise of Thiel several years ago, but apparently there's a market in rectifying these.

As I mentioned over there, I loved the speakers so much my chase ended right then and there, even passing on the (amazing) 2.4's when I had a chance. I only updated my electronics/peripherals until I found the perfect match.Of course at the time, it was for a very specific space. In my new house all bets are off.
In the pair of CS6 that I'm going to buy both midrange/tweeter speakers have no signature "THIEL" and "Coincident Array" oabove and under the speaker.  I guess they must have been replaced some time ago by previous owner. If there are no  those signatures I've mentionet above schould I assume that those are not original midrange/tweeter speakers or after some years Thiel produced the replacement speakers without this signature? They sound excellent.
 
I would be very grateful for help.