Just another Orange fuse thread

Wow thats so sad I'm now crying.

Thanks, guys, and much appreciated.

It really is a skill. Said it before, bears repeating. Again and again.

Its a skill, and a hard one to learn at that. A lot of the usual assumptions simply do not apply. Like, listen to musical instruments. I grew up learning to play. Mostly french horn, but also trumpet, sax, harmonica, piano. Makes you real good at discerning pitch and tone. Which sounds good but in hindsight handicapped me for years. All the years I listened for what I was good at listening for, under the false assumption that was all that mattered. 

Problem is, all musical instruments, whatever attack and decay, whatever timbral or harmonic character they have, its all natural and to some extent under the control of the performer. In any case its all natural. Being real good at hearing the difference in the shape of your hand and how far into the bell it goes in the sound of a french horn doesn’t exactly carry over into hearing the difference in liquidity and image depth from faster diodes in a solid state amp.

Its a whole different set of sonic attributes. And it doesn’t do any good to say that just because you can’t hear them, or more to the point aren’t aware that you’re hearing them, that they aren’t important.

One thing I did early on was drag my wife around to act as impartial observer to check my evaluations. Actually a more negative opinion since she wants to spend even less than I want to spend. Which is, for the record, zero. Yet time and again we got the same result- she couldn’t say exactly how, but the better sounding gear always sounded better. She preferred it. By enough to be worth paying more for. Even though she couldn’t say why or how.

This has been demonstrated so many times in the years since its beyond doubt. People can and do hear these things, and people definitely do prefer better- even though many times they cannot express their feelings well enough to say exactly why. That part took me years. Truth be told, still working on it.

Is this because of a few rotten apples/trolls that derail the discussions that those threads are closed? If this is the case, that’s very sad. Anyone here care to explain?

"If this is the case" No, it’s more the "few rotten shills" that get them closed, just look at the usual ones that shill for these SR fuses (one has answered here) and you’ll see it’s just a well orchestrated advertisement for snake oil fuses. (especially SR ones).

Do a search on just Orange Fuse (let alone the other colors) have a look at the end and see how many threads get shut down it’s quite a few now, it’s a eye opener, all because of a handful that shill for SR.

Audiogon are not stupid they know when the site is being "used" for commercial product gains by so called "members", one of the main ones even admits he works as a tester for their fuses.

And BTW

The only way a fuse can sound better, if it replaces old crusty one that seen too many switch on surges over time, doesn’t have to be $200 fuse, should be $2 same one but new, and the same result will happen, and switch-on surge ageing will be the same for both $200 fuse or the $2 fuse

A slow-blo fuse ageing over time right to left
https://ibb.co/k5KgcB6

A fast-blo fuse ageing over time left to right
https://ibb.co/1LNFGxQ

Your better off spending $2 on a "new original fuse", and save hundreds.

Cheers George

Millercarbon posted:

Most of us here really enjoy listening to music and are here to share and learn anything we can that will help us make the music sound even better. A small but very noisy minority have other priorities. The stories like the people vary but the one thing they all have in common is an inability to listen. They can't hear worth a damn.

Read their posts, you will see. They never compare anything based on how it sounds, unless its to say something meaningless like its better or they like it. Never a word about imaging, sound stage, depth, attack, decay, timbre, tone, or any of the hundreds of things the rest of us use to describe what we're hearing. But they know that's the whole reason we're here, and so they are unbelievably jealous. Jealousy leads to envy and spite and so they joke to relieve the tension in their sorry lives and attack those of us with ears who they see as the reason they have to be so miserable.

Holds up well, I'd say.

George, you should be associated with those other sites that bash cables/fuses/practically any tweak that cost more than $5. Again, you comment about “snake oil fuses” is absurd, it’s your opinion, and a weak 1 at that. I know people with very nice equipment that use 3rd party fuses and they like them. If you don’t like them, keep your nonsense comments for the other naysayer sites