Higher End DACs


I am looking for a DAC (potentially streamer&DAC) to be paired in a mcintosh system (c1100/611). Its my first foray into digital streaming and I have no need for a CD player.

I see a lot of love for Esoteric, however, most seems to be around their transports? Are they not as renowned for pure digital streaming and/or standalone DACs? I see DCS (for instance) often referenced for standalone DACs - how does Esoteric compare?
ufguy73
@thyname  good point on the DCS/MSB equivalence.

I guess, honestly, I am wondering if the Rossini and/or Premier would be wasted too much in my current system because (if not) I'd actually prefer to come in at the Rossini/Premier level.

I suppose if the Rossini/Premier are just going to make no difference with my current components, I probably should do the Bartok to Discrete comparison, instead.

Ill give Vince a shout out...I think they may be around the South Bay?  Im actually in the East Bay Area so maybe something could be easily arranged.  I will PM you, if I can figure it out (not very familiar with this forum functionality...its already strange to me not to be able to 'like' or quote, directly lol).

@kren0006 thanks again for the input!

@4425 I know this may not make sense...but, honestly, if I did the Bartok I would not get the clock...if I did the Rossini I would either eventually get the clock (or potentially upgrade the entire system and to a Vivaldi, depending on how bad I was bitten lol)....irrational, I know :)


i actually do know where you are coming from. if you make the jump to a rossini then you’re going to want the clock at some point. i think of the Bartok as being so good on its own for its ‘budget’ price that you won’t worry so much about passing on a rossini and clock for $31000. ja blindfold comparison would be highly interesting. the reviews on the bartok seem to indicate that it could be the end of the road for most audiophiles. 
ufguy73,

I agree that you should give Vince a call, if anything, just to talk to the man, as he's a fountain of knowledge and useful info.
But given your situation, a forum is not the best place for you right now. You should really find a dealer and work with him. He should be able not only to answer your questions (in regards to your whole system, not only DACs), as well as provide gear for you to evaluate.
We are in California too, though on the Southern end :) If there's no one local to you that you like, you're welcome to reach out and maybe i can help.

cheers,
Alex
Alma Music and Audio
I have not read all of the responses.  I believe this to be important/relevant and timely subject matter.  Thanks for starting the thread.  I have been able to audition a couple of high end DAC’s.  Before I get into those...my listening taste leans toward warm and accurate sounding classic rock, southern blues and plain old blues.
I stream both Qobuz and Tidal through a Roon+ (the Roon is a constant in all my auditions).
The two DAC’s I auditioned were the MSB Select II and the Chord Dave combined with Chords MScaler.  The results (to my ears) were opposite of the price points.  The Chord combination sounded significantly warmer and guitars, pianos and drums came across as the “real thing” in terms of accuracy. You should be able to get the Roon+, Chord Dave and Chord MScaler combination for under $25K.  This does not include proper cables which is another subject.
I suggest auditioning this Roon/Chord combination....Really hard to beat!  Have fun