Best Tubes for VAC


Hi All,

I've got a VAC Signature iia SE linestage (upgraded from iia) and a pair of Phi 200 amps.  I'd like to optimize tubes for transparency and detail (of course I also want tonal accuracy, soundstage and imaging). I'm wondering if there are any folks out there who have optimized tubes in their similar VAC units?  The tube compliments are:

PREAMP:
2x 12AU7
2x 8416, 7308, 6922, E88CC, ECC88, 6DJ8, (or 12DJ8 twin triodes)

AMPS (each)
4x KT88
4x 6SN7 (in the best 2 positions, I've got a pair of NOS Sylvania 6SN7GT's)

What have people found to work best in these VAC units?  Thanks in advance, Peter
peter_s
I use NOS French 1956 12AU7'S and they are killers in the VAC system. You should contact upscaleaudio.com and discuss with them. They really make a difference in the quality of the sound, and this company can help you figure out what to do when it comes to tubes...they are EXPERTS.

I run all VAC equipment with dual PA8080'S, their DAC and their preamp all with upgraded tubes from upscale audio.

Best,
Paul 
Interesting... I just got off the phone with Kevin at VAC, and he informed me that the 12AU7's are only used in the tape loop and are of secondary importance. He recommended that I focus on the 6922-family tubes on the preamp.  He mentioned that if you don't use the tape loop, they have found that there is a SLIGHT sonic improvement by taking the tape loop out of the circuit altogether.  In addition to the NOS 6922 variants, he mentioned that VAC is really impressed with the Electroharmonix current production 6922's.
They aren’t cheap at $200 each but you should consider the KR KT88s.  Amazing tube.  Open and airy.  For current production, debatably the ultimate KT88.  

for 6922s we use a NOS Philips with Art Audios that are outstanding and modestly priced.  
Hi everyone. I just want to report that I finally installed the  WE-KT88's in my Phi 200's, and WOW! they surpassed the Genelex Gold Lion KT88's by a wide margin.  Here is what I wrote to my friends:

"Changing the tubes was huge! Never before has my system sounded so natural, neutral, cohesive, enticing and involving. I'm no longer noticing congestion and loss of internal resolution. The micro-details are there, and yet it is fairly relaxed."   

I am so impressed.  Next I will try the WE-6SN7's.  All of these are around $250 per quad at China-Hifi-Audio. Thanks @johnss for your excellent advise! 

All the Best, Peter
Hi Peter S,
you are welcome.;
glad to hear you were able to get them. there are some shortages on these tubes now...due to China plants coming back on line after covid.

Agree with your comments, have 3 quad sets of GL 88s; they are nice, but they are really no competition for the WE KT88 Red base tubes.
if you opt for the red base WE 6SN7s, they wont be as big a change as the output valves, but still quite noticeable.

Right now, the Shuguang WE KT88 plus  red base are the most organic natural, open and relaxed sounding K88 I have heard, bare none, and I have tried every current and past production KT88.

The PSVANE gray glass KTa88s are good, but the red base WE KT88s are better.

prior to the WE KZZT88 plus  I was using the Shugang Nature sound KT88s in my 200. they are nice but a step down from the red base WE KT88s.

As a side note, I also have a VAC Auricle and use the WE 6CA7 plus fat bottles in it. Best sounding EL34/6CA7 I have tried. head and shoulders above anything else.
The boys at Shuguang have really done their homework on these.
best