BEST HARMLESS/SIGNATURELESS SPEAKERS CAPACITORS.


Dear friends:I really need your helpwith first hand experiences with speaker crossover capacitors founded in next main experiences/tested premises: for a 3-way speaker design, high resolution audio systems, very low distortion audio systems, wide systems frequency range, " zero trade-offs ".

I know that the best capacitor is NO-capacitor, well I need your near to that full experiences with another desired premises from you: audio systems using SS electronics and mainly listening MUSIC through digital sources.

All your opinions/help are appreciated.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.


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Paul: Before those elctronics first hand experiences I had a similar one with Classé Audio DR-7 phonolinepreamp, NIL 3 ( pre-preamp/headamp ) and the DR-3VHC amplifier.
Was from Classé where I take off " dozens " of diferent Wima caps models and values.

A little late but fortunatelly I learned and I'm still doing day by day.

R.
Dear friends: This cap tests evaluation for my speaker crossover is really complicated due that Vishay, Wima, Kemet and Epcos has each one " hundreds " of models for multiple/several applications and inside each application model exist " dozens " of options to as a choice.

Of course no one of that applications says: speaker crossovers, so I'm buying diferent models of the same values and testing it. Not really an easy task but quite learning one.

Now, things are that sometime inside same manufacturer models and sometimes caps from diferent manufacturers caps performs almost at the same quality performance levels and all signatureless.

The issue down there is: which is the best choice?, very hard to say and what I'm doing is to have in different days using same recordings ( analog/digital. ) listen for a while at high SPL ( always same SPL. ) and I decided that the choice will be and is the cap that after eachh listen session let my ears/brain more " calm " and with the less/lower sensation of that time listening to high SPL's.

I decided that because I had not ( yet ) other better alternative. Advises are welcomed.

All those made it that today my crossovers are a blend of manufacturer caps where no one of them works as a tone control. That's why the blend: colorless.

R.
Btw, sessions at high SPL to make a cap choices and what I posted about does not means that the natural agresiveness and MUSIC brigthness are the ones that determine how or in wich condition my ears finish at each session.

My take is that at high SPL the caps with higher generated distortions are the least " ears " calm because it's more the kind of distortions with the SPL's what really make the diferences.
I check too in diferent sessions at low SPL's and here too is really indicative and help to make the choices.

About type of caps I gone and go for the MKP type but for other kind too. I found out that sometimes non-MKP models beated the MKP ones and the other way around and this fact makes that the number of tests been truly high but always with a learning lesson.

R.
Dear friends: I'm almost at the end of the overall caps in speaker crossover evaluation and by second time inside that evaluation I listened again to those boutique/snake oil expensive caps and was only to confirm that are not passive devices for true high end MUSIC home system reproduction.

Perhaps we can use that kind of cap if we have and want to fix a radio from the 60's ( not a joke. ) but for today audio just are useless.

Perhaps those useless devices manufacturers need to remember or re-think again how performs live MUSIC at near field position.

Maybe some of you think that the world industry is wrong and the only people that are rigth are the manufacturers of that kind of $$$$ devices. Could be?, I know for sure that the answer is NO but this is only an opinion/sand grain in an Ocean where almost every one think diferent from me.

I have no problem with.

R.
I said almost finish because now comes a really  dificult and end part where I need to be really carefully, high patience and move almost like a juggler.

All those because each speaker crossver needs to stay items/devices point to point soldered in between and things are that all the caps I'm using ( diferent manufacturers. ) are radial ones with small space in between pin connectors but things are that the resistors are radial too and this makes things more complicated because that pin connectors sopace in between is even smaller than in the caps.

Additional to all those I'm using caps in parallel because ( example. ) I could not find out 16.8uf caps so I was obligated to parallel caps that been radial along the resistors makes these point to point job a nigthmare.

But things does not ends there because the all silver ribbon inductors ( 4 .)  are really big ( like 5cms. wide. ) and needs be located at " big distance " in between and with diferent position angles.

Rigth now I'm making a route diagram of what to doo and the challenges I will find out in that point to point  final excercise.

I don't want to use nothing but the crossover items with out any single wire other than the input/output cables that comes from the amps and goes to each speaker driver.

I want to preserve the hardwired tri-wire connection.

We will see.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.