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Orosonic/Monster Cable Reflex Record Clamp

So when I bought my Brinkmann Bardo it came with an HRS record weight. I used it, seemed to be decent enough. Now I have never been a fan of record weights, I don't see the process they work through as being very efficient. 

On my other tables I use a Sota Reflex clamp, and the other one the Sota 1-Clamp. I like both well enough, and the reflex clamp to me is an excellent product. 

Now in my box of stuff, I did get a Monster Cable Reflex style clamp, branded as a Monster Cable one, which is the same as the Orosonic. It does a nice job pulling down onto the spindle when the center cylinder is released. 

Anyone ever heard much about these clamps and have an opinion? From what I hear there are not significant differences. To be honest, I am not even sure if they are necessary, but I feel better with on there as the Reflex clamp does a good job coupling the record and platter. Not as good as the Reflex clamp and vacuum platter of my Cosmos, but pretty good for a single device. 

Anyone use any of these series Orosonic or rebranded Monster Cable clamps? I think they may have been sold under other brand names also. 
neonknight
neonknight OP
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I have always found the issue with record clamps to be is that they cannot apply pressure across the record evenly. They clamp the inside of the record just fine, but do very little for coupling the edges. Record weights have the same problem, and just accomplish their job by brute force. And I don’t see them being good for a turntable bearing.

That is why I prefer the vacuum option on the SOTA as it applies the coupling pressure evenly across the record. Even this system requires a Reflex clamp to work properly and maintain a good seal. But it does work well, and does not harm vinyl, so I do like it.

But my other tables do not use it, so some type of clamping system is necessary. I am going to experiment a bit with the SOTA Reflex clamp and see if it gives better results than the Orsonic. I could see where the Orsonic would be useful on suspended tables such as a AR, Dual, or something ese along those lines.
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slaw
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I invested in a record flattener. Upon testing record clamps, in addition to them re-coupling to a mechanical bearing, they seem to take some life out of the music. I find a weight adds definition. A good mat, with or without a weight is preferrable IMO.
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rauliruegas
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Dear @slaw : "  they seem to take some life out of the music.."

I read before that kind of statement but I learned with first hand experiences that's not really in that way but the other way around if you take in count that that " life " you are talking about it's higher in distoprtion levels that when you listen it using a good reflex clamp.

Neonknigth stay with reflex clamps and stay away from any non-reflex clamp ( clamps with only dead weigth that are the worst ones. ) but a one made it in wood that's out of production and that I can't remember its builder but was and is very well regarded and expensive too.

Try to find out the Basis one that @cardani posted, I own it and it's just great. I own too your Sota reflex too but my vote goes to Basis.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
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slaw
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@rauliruegas ,

We can therefore agree to disagree.
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bdp24
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If you insist on a clamp, the BDR was a good one. Two versions were made---a 1-piece, and a 2. They come up for sale occasionally, going for $100-$150.
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