Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
avguru
AVGURU, PSCIALLI had a stock Denon 2200 for a brief spell and found it rather disappointing, even after upgrading the powerchord. He is now in audio Nirvana with his ModWrite Sony 999ES Platinum.
The DV-50 (Superclock 3) is now fully burned -in and ready for battle. I'm anxious to attend the shootout. How will the power cord and isolation issues be handled? I asume we bring our favorite cords, but isolation can also change the outcome. Any thoughts of using the same (or none) on each player. Just wondering...
Hey, I'm gonna have to take a stand here, although I haven't contributed anything yet to this hilarious post.

Anyway, should alcohol allowed at the "Shootout?" I mean, don't we want non-intoxicated reviewers who are actually able to critically evaluate each player instead of being lulled to sleep?

I'm not comfortable with that...I'm not comfortable with that at all.
Sammie, I'm basically with you as far as what beverages should and shouldn't be consumed at the shootout, but keep in mind it's not a court trial or something really serious - it's just audio. If someone wants to have a beer or glass of wine that's OK, but it's not the reason for being there, and the auditions will be controlled as well as possible.

I've spoken with 711smilin (Steve) and Avguru (Charles), and it sounds as though things are coming together for an interesting, useful comparison of several contenders. Charles said he is working on an evaluation form which he may post for comment, that we'll try to use and will report the results from.

I'll try to post a list of people planning to participate, as well as the list of proposed components for the comparison. For those of you participating, I'd really appreciate you contacting me as soon as possible, to confirm what time you'll show up and leave and what you plan to bring. Tentatively we'll start around 1pm - if you aren't bringing or sending your component a day or two ahead of time, show up a little early to set up. I'd like to schedule people at a couple of times, though, as I can only fit so many people in the room at once and it would be nice to avoid confusion and overcrowding.

For those of you bringing components for the comparison, there are a few things I need to know:
- single ended, balanced, or both outputs?
- tube output stage, or solid state?
- volume control built in? If so, can it be bypassed?
- anything else that comes to mind

Depending upon the answers to the above questions, we'll use either the CTC Blowtorch or Atma-Sphere MP-3 preamp for use with your component. The Blowtorch may be a better overall choice as a totally neutral and revealing unit, although tube outputs may not be able to drive the 10K pots properly, and it has single ended inputs only.

I can be contacted by email at brian(at)essentialaudio(dot)com or by phone at 847-382-8433. Thanks!

Brian
I'm quite surprised about the over-reaction regarding my beer comment. I wouldn't drive five hours just to attend a drunken party. I also think that distance I'm coming shows my committment to the hobby. On the other hand, I would hope this is a casual event and if wine is offered, I'll gladly have a glass. (or two)
Tom Roberts