The bass is the place...
millercarbon3,826 posts04-16-2020 1:28pm imo, 2-ways with sub cannot compete with a speaker using 12 inch woofers. What if the 2 way uses a 12"? Then you do not want to hear this. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367 This will rock your world. millercarbon your running a two way? Am I missing something here? I’m all confused.. Regards |
Regarding multi-source bass reproduction, until I recently had to downsize my music-oriented multi-channel system featured five Thiel 3.5's with equalized bass down to 22hz. No sign of room nodes, and with that many Thiel speakers, no power/sound level limitations even with the loudest of DVD movies. |
hi there, im new to audiogon, and to hifi as well : ) - I think I got lucky my very first time in getting the system to disappear, using a psaudio transport and ds DAC, Cary 300SEi amp, relatively cheap biwires and Larsen 6.2 speakers. My listening space is an undedicated lounge and tv area, open on one side with speakers set up on the long wall, usually closed on the other with timber framed glass folding doors, and with a back wall of a sturdy timber and glass cabinet eleven feet from the front brick wall. The ceiling is nine feet high, my speakers are eight feet apart and my general listening area about eight feet as well. With an amp of 15wpc, biwire cables, and lowish sensitivity speakers, my system shouldn’t work, but it does. Vendors dropping by usually look round for a subwoofer, and tell me the frequencies are well balanced, and the bass is unbelievable for what Is feeding it. I suspect it has to do in part with the ss rectifier output of the amp, and in greater part with the Larsen speakers using the front wall as a resonater, as they are placed barely an inch up against the wall. I don’t turn up my volume past 79db. |
Might be useful to define what I consider to be accurate bass. That is the sound of a bass drum or stand up bass that can be heard in the listeners room with the ability to fool the listener into believing that the ’real un-amplified’ instrument is palatably in the room. At a HiFi show I attended last year, i had a ’conversation’ with a well known speaker designer ( whose speakers are highly colored, IME) about the subject of bass reproduction. The designer was telling all in his room that his speakers were able to plumb the depths in the bass and with absolute accuracy and that this system was producing amazing bass in this room. To my ears, this was absolutely not the case. I felt his speakers were colored and diffuse in the very bottom end and that they were not that far reaching in the bass either. ( the speakers in question were quite pricey). This conversation didn’t sit well with the designer, as he knew that he was asking a lot of money for a product that had to impress in its all-around SQ for its price point. Leaving bass production/reach and accuracy behind would not let him delineate his product from numerous other speakers that were priced considerably less. |
