Another Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC with Ortofon 2M Red Question


Hello,

I purchased the Pro-Ject Debut in December 2015 along with ACRYL-IT platter upgrade. I was using this with a newer Yamaha receiver at the time. I have since purchased a vintage Marantz 170DC power amp and 3250B preamp, along with a set of JBL 4311 WXA speakers. I had all the vintage gear serviced and it sounds good, I was hoping some tweaks with the turntable would hopefully get better sound. I was considering the Ortofon 2M Bronze upgrade, the tech who serviced my Marantz suggested getting the Hana EH High cartridge. He said it would sound much quieter than the Ortofon, but also deliver better sound. Does anyone have any thoughts on the two cartridges I'm considering?
Thanks for any advice. 

thehip
My first question would be ... why would you be putting a $500 cartridge on a $400 turntable?

The Pro-ject Debut has its limitations, specifically a noisy motor.    

I am assuming that your Pro-ject came with the Ortofon Red.  I have never cared for the sound of the Red cartridge.  A little too brittle sounding for my tastes.

The Bronze is a higher level cartridge derived from the Red family and is the cartridge that comes with the Project Classic.  Nice turntable that is being discontinued at/ around the $800-$900 price range.  That would be an upgrade, but I have doubled the amount of your expenditure.

I would look to keep it simple until you upgrade the Debut.  Upgrade to the Ortofon Blue cartridge.  The Blue would be a true upgrade in sound.  Or better still, swap out the Red stylus with the Blue stylus and you will get most of the benefits of the upgrade and keep it around $200.


https://www.musicdirect.com/phono-cartridges/ortofon-2m-blue-replacement-stylus?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5L...

Rich 




Thank you for the feedback. Sorry this may be a dumb question, I had read about the motor hum/noise with this turntable but I don't hear it.  Could I just be fortunate and not have this noise as bad. I had also seen a YouTube video where you ground the end of the power support adapter by wrapping some wire to it and then the other end goes to the ground. This may not be not doing much but I don't hear any noise turning up the amp with no record playing and listening for a hum. Is that how I would test?

I did spend a lot of money growing up seeing tons of rock concerts so maybe my ears are not so good picking this noise up. :)
My first question would be ... why would you be putting a $500 cartridge on a $400 turntable?

The numbers is nothing, what you want to hear is SOUND, if you want a better sound start with better cartridge, this is one and only thing that actually "read" the groove physically. It is true that with Ortofon M2 Red you will never hear a great sound, no matter which turntable you’re using (it’s an entry level cartridge with bonded diamond).

It’s nice to upgrade a turntable too (something like direct drive new technics sl1200gr maybe), but with limited budget, and strong desire to upgrade the sound, a cartridge with advanced LineContact type profile (like Stereohedron) is more important and i’ve heard what a better cartridge can do on this particular turntable (a friend own it and using with Stanton 881s mkII, it was $350 cartridge btw, he literally throw away his new Ortofon M2 Red after we mounted Stanton 881s mkII).