Disappointing On Mcintosh......help


 3 Months ago  I went to NYC and stopped by the WOM  and auditioned several MCintosh gear...........and left a bit disappointed or not impressed...then I told myself   " lets give a second shot"  and went today to a  HIFI store and again Good room accoustics10K speakers , MC Preamp , MC Amplifier........ and again  the same disappointment I felt 3 month earlier.

Is that the "warm" sound people reffer to about Mcintosh?  
The sound is ample, base is powerfull  but the the sound is simply  not to clear, the hights are not too "crisp"  It sounds like the treble is set at 3 and needs to be adjusted at 9 or 10.
It seems like  the sound is  coming through a thin layer of paper ...that is the way I describe that sound.  

Then 20 minutes later I auditioned a Parasound A21+ and a JC5 and the sound was more clear and the highs were crispier

Whats your take on my experience?  or That is the MC "warm sound? 
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Value is in the eye of the beholder...I'll share my experience with upgrading my system.

My system started with Sonus Faber Venere 3.0s, NAD C375BEE with a vintage dual turntable and Parasound Tape Deck.

My system was designed from the start to be 2 channel stereo as I decided to have a dedicate home theatre and figured my living room could use music for entertainment.  I started with selecting speakers and looked at PSB Towers, (T2 or T3) and B&W 805D before selecting the Sonus Fabers.  My home theatre was NAD and I considered an Integra unit but since my NAD T785 performed well I stayed with NAD.  

I added a Node 2i and started thinking of upgrading.  My primary rationale was volume - I like it loud and I listen to rock, jazz, blues as well as R&B and pop when entertaining.

My audio dealer where I purchased the Node 2i had a special on Naim Atom - when I expressed my desire for my volume the dealer didn't think this upgrade would fit the bill.  So we discussed some other options and I decided to wait.

Then a McIntosh C2600 deal came up - it had a DAC, phono stage and I thought it may be a good way to get into separates.  Oh my did the sound change.  The sound became 'bigger' meaning you could hear all the nuances during the dynamic sections of music.

I noticed the amp was struggling at 45% when the Node 2i was the source.  The tape deck and phone sounded significantly better.  

I recently swapped the NAD C375BEE when I found a deal on a McIntosh MC 302 and this improved the sound quality and the volume.  I enjoyed playing music very load with the amp going strong to the 300w for music like April Wine's 20th Century Schizoid Man, Daft Punk's Get Lucky, Bestie Boys Brass Monkey.

Going back to the original post - that's your experience.  Its not mine.  I like the sound I have - I can play Black Sabbath Paranoid on an LP and I can hear the distinction in the bass from the drum and the guitars clearly during War Pigs.  I can stream a MQA on Tidal with Steel Dan or the Talking Heads and experience the dynamic range of the music.  The two things I've done to 'optimize my components' are I have Blue Jean Speaker Cables Bi-wired, Blue Jean Optical from the Node to the pre-amp, Transparent RCA from the tape deck to the amp and I'm using Better Cables Silver Serpent XLRs from the preamp to the Amp.  The difference between Transparent RCA from pre-amp to amp was significant - specifically in overall volume and when there is 'silence' in music such as during Johnny Cash's Hurt.

Hopefully this is interesting, useful or at least amusing.


@mrklas,

I have a similar story and ended up with a McIntosh C2500 and MC302.  I am extremely satisfied and I love the generous amount of inputs and outputs, adjusting Moving Coil impedance on the fly by remote, bass and treble controls...I could go on and on.  The amp sounds so effortless, plenty of power for my speakers.  
Interesting. I've always found Mcintosh to be bright and thin but recently heard the C2700 with a MC462 on JBL 4349's and it was amazing. The newest generation of Mac gear sounds phenomenal... when paired properly. I heard that same MC462 run with a Jeff Rowland Capri S2 preamp and it sounded like TRASH. Pairing is VERY important and I do subscribe to the idea that our tastes may change a bit over time. Or we just forget. If you can, take your time and audition gear. Sometime's it's a pain in the @ss, especially during a pandemic, but allot of dealers will allow home demos - especially with preamps and the such. And every audio comment about sound should be followed with "it sounded bright and thin... TO ME"... sound is subjective. 
Currently I’m running a McIntosh c53 preamp with a McIntosh mc452 power amp and a pair of KEF Blades! I couldn’t be more thrilled! The sound stage is spectacular and it is just a pleasure to listen to! Seems like KEF and and McIntosh like each other! Also used Audio Quest cables.😎🎶