Thing is , was the 88/ and 90 ar0und in the 50's?
had Sid Smitha choise between the 3, would he stillm have chosen the el34 are the ideal tube for his amps?
I guess in some applications the 120, 150 might be suitable for a particular sound so desired.
Every audiophile has a dif musical collection. I just happen to have all classical,,with no need fora tube that can bust out solid bass guitar riffs and beasty pounding drum solos.
Perhaps the el34 will not deliver the ~slam~ so required in heavy jazz, rock and roll. Thats none of my collection, I use jazz/blues cds in my vids only for voicing the dynamics of my system, I acutally mostly listen to 20C classical, some pre 1900, not much.
I do not need a power tube that offers ~~Slam~~, which the 88/90 might best the 34 in that regard.
This is the purpose of the topic, What are your needs ina power tube? I hada el34 cayin for a short time,,,But can not say i know how the 24 will sound in the Defy.
maybe the 88 is my ideal tube.,,I am willing to invest in 12 el34's later this year.
I can say for sure the 150's did offer more head room, wider depth to the music,,but at a cost of liquid, separation in the mids.
As i mention, my amp comes back with 12 Mundorf .47 silver gold EVO Supreme caps,,, This might open up the high fq register,,allowing the 88 a sweeter voicing.
I am guessing the 88 provides a superior upper bass fq voicing where the 34 might sound ~~anemic~~,
Not sure if i can give up the upper bass strength of the 88 , in place of the 34's super sweet mid/upper mid range.
Maybe a EL66 or a EL77 might be another choice here,, and lets not forget the 90,,which jadis has always favored in the amps.
The EI KT90's hada mid range which was life like,,voicing for real,,but also came witha high end distoryion which gave fatique,,Never too care of that amp,, as far as rebiasing, adding new tubes..
IMHO had i gone with the EH90 and Teles in the single AU and dual AX sections,,I'd still have that lil amp today.,,and have kept me from a huge investment these past 15 years.
Sold it for $1200, now i am about to buya pre for the Defy at $1400,,and still don't know if that pre is going to give what i had with the JOR... I could have bought 3 new JOR's considering all I've invested in getting this Defy up N running as per what the JOR offered,,or had even more potential to offer.
NOS Tele, all new M Silver Gold EVO Supreme + new EH 90's or 88's, ,,,I was unaware of the potential of that lil intergrated at the time.
~~~research is everything and good solid advice can prevent poor choices in this hobby.
I was forwarned by the Defy seller back in 2008,,**you will needa goiod pre,,you realize?** I brushed that off, thinking the Defy would voice the muisc, and less so the pre.
man was i wrong.
the pre is like the brains,,the power amp the muscle.
So at the very least, lets work with what i have , and try to get the ideal power tube in the Defy.
Let me now look at the Kt66,KT77;'s in the consideration as ideal mid range/upper bass power tube.
had Sid Smitha choise between the 3, would he stillm have chosen the el34 are the ideal tube for his amps?
I guess in some applications the 120, 150 might be suitable for a particular sound so desired.
Every audiophile has a dif musical collection. I just happen to have all classical,,with no need fora tube that can bust out solid bass guitar riffs and beasty pounding drum solos.
Perhaps the el34 will not deliver the ~slam~ so required in heavy jazz, rock and roll. Thats none of my collection, I use jazz/blues cds in my vids only for voicing the dynamics of my system, I acutally mostly listen to 20C classical, some pre 1900, not much.
I do not need a power tube that offers ~~Slam~~, which the 88/90 might best the 34 in that regard.
This is the purpose of the topic, What are your needs ina power tube? I hada el34 cayin for a short time,,,But can not say i know how the 24 will sound in the Defy.
maybe the 88 is my ideal tube.,,I am willing to invest in 12 el34's later this year.
I can say for sure the 150's did offer more head room, wider depth to the music,,but at a cost of liquid, separation in the mids.
As i mention, my amp comes back with 12 Mundorf .47 silver gold EVO Supreme caps,,, This might open up the high fq register,,allowing the 88 a sweeter voicing.
I am guessing the 88 provides a superior upper bass fq voicing where the 34 might sound ~~anemic~~,
Not sure if i can give up the upper bass strength of the 88 , in place of the 34's super sweet mid/upper mid range.
Maybe a EL66 or a EL77 might be another choice here,, and lets not forget the 90,,which jadis has always favored in the amps.
The EI KT90's hada mid range which was life like,,voicing for real,,but also came witha high end distoryion which gave fatique,,Never too care of that amp,, as far as rebiasing, adding new tubes..
IMHO had i gone with the EH90 and Teles in the single AU and dual AX sections,,I'd still have that lil amp today.,,and have kept me from a huge investment these past 15 years.
Sold it for $1200, now i am about to buya pre for the Defy at $1400,,and still don't know if that pre is going to give what i had with the JOR... I could have bought 3 new JOR's considering all I've invested in getting this Defy up N running as per what the JOR offered,,or had even more potential to offer.
NOS Tele, all new M Silver Gold EVO Supreme + new EH 90's or 88's, ,,,I was unaware of the potential of that lil intergrated at the time.
~~~research is everything and good solid advice can prevent poor choices in this hobby.
I was forwarned by the Defy seller back in 2008,,**you will needa goiod pre,,you realize?** I brushed that off, thinking the Defy would voice the muisc, and less so the pre.
man was i wrong.
the pre is like the brains,,the power amp the muscle.
So at the very least, lets work with what i have , and try to get the ideal power tube in the Defy.
Let me now look at the Kt66,KT77;'s in the consideration as ideal mid range/upper bass power tube.