$2500 speaker threshold


Hello everyone,

Recently I was reading the latest edition of Robert Harley's The Complete Guide to High End Audio. In an early chapter he refers to a "significant" disparity in quality between speakers selling for just under $2500 & selling selling for just over $2500. I'd never heard of this before.

I realize that quality is supposed to improve with price, but Harley was clear in stating that the $2500 threshold marked a larger gap in quality than would be seen in other price-point differences. Unfortunately he didn't elaborate on just what made the >2500s better than the <$2500s.

Anyone know what that might be about?

andy
andykkk
I would be leary of such a quote given no elaboration on reason.
That's an really close margin to say there are significant differances from just a few hundred dollar slot limit.
Just my two cents worth.
John
It's a generalization. In general I can see his point, but, however, except, on the other hand, it's also a simplification. There are things that can't be done for less than a couple thousand, on the other hand, there could be an argument for an upper breakpoint too. After about seven to eight thousand, in most cases, you're throwing your money at finishing or bragging rights.
My guess is he is stating that once you hit the $2500 price point for every dollar you spend,the less value for the dollar beyond that point...Keep in mind the selling price vs. cost is probably 4 to 1 and the higher in cost the more you lose...Thats the reality of it...Maybe that what he was trying to say..
I can't say rather I agree or disagree with his statement that's probably got a little more context intended to go with it, but when I was looking at speakers my final choice was between the Focal Chorus 816v ($2,000) and 836v ($3,000) and the difference was significant. The 836v had better bass response that would be expected with the addition of two bass drivers (i.e. 3 vs. 1), but the 3-way design compared to the 2-1/2 way design also yielded much better instrument seperation. I have not heard the 826v ($2,500), but because it's a 2-1/2 way design I'd anticipate that it would sound like an 816v with a little more bass. In my opinion, the 836v speaker has an amazing sound in a way that the 816v, that is also excellent, isn't.
Robert and I were colleagues at the time he first published a 'Guide'...I tried to get Kathy Gornik to have this as a 'giveaway' in THIEL dealerships, as he used the THIEL's as his reference...that, and Robert's a REALLY GOOD GUY, and great listener.
I'm thinking that, and this is a maybe, time has changed 'pricing' jumping off points...IF, AND ONLY IF, this is from about '98.
I do agree emperically, that there is a 'jump off point' that occurs...though I'm not 'precisely aware' of where it happens.
For example...the LSA1 Statement (this is not a commercial)...takes any listener into the 'High End'...both texturally, and imaging wise...with a tonal balance (excluding deep bass) similar to Sound Labs A1....that's saying a lot, as they retail for about 9 times the price and are definitely MUCH better. Yet, it's the doorway to wonderful sound that we can all live with.
Bobby's, (my friend and colleague) Merlins, do the same thing. He's always offered textures 'out the wazooo' for prices that are based on real value, 'Good old American Sweat', and not what the market will bear.
So, while there's a 'jump off', I don't know what it is--but I agree in theory.

Love all audiophiles...