Do speakers take time to warm up?

Vandersteen/ Low DBS patent covers battery bias ( forming of dialectic ) of Crossovers and cables. Regulations limit battery to 72 v but the Vandersteen amps provide 128.

i believe some Brinkmann electronics utilize this also....

douglas_schroeder2,355 posts05-28-2020 1:17pmImo, the crossover charging idea is nonsense. They are not being charged when the system is OFF! It's more ridiculous thinking from people who fancy their ears more consistent than the electronics. Same with the foolishness of cables "settling ".


One word can be used to describe this post.
Ignorant

His engrained and obsolete opinion.

 All of a sudden, because its Hi-Fi, the laws of physics no longer apply?

 Electrical resistance is no longer altered by temperature?

 Capacitors longer require charging up and do not discharge themselves?

 Some speakers do not require much warming up, others do.

 The xover in (for example) the Avalon could almost be called a passive amplifier in the way it works.

tatyana69,

Please demonstrate for me the following:

*That electrical resistance altered by temperature of a speaker driver or crossover makes an audible difference.

*That a capacitor takes longer than a few microseconds, or at most a second, to charge, and that it is audible. i.e. that the character/operation of the cap changes audibly over time, i.e. 10 to 20 minutes or more.

*That some speakers take longer to "warm up" while others do not, and that it is audible. 

I already demonstrated in my Audiophile Law: Thou Shalt Not Overemphasize Burn In that electronics and cables that are "broken in" and warmed up have no bearing on the sound in comparison to ones that are new and started up from a "cold" start. What are you doing to demonstrate your assertions? How about you get two identical speakers and run one for a few days, and use a switcher to switch between one system that is new and just started up, and one that is "broken in" and warmed up? I suspect you won't, because it takes time and money. If you are only going to talk, without putting any effort into your declarations, I'm not impressed with your attempt at putting me in my place. 

I suspect that you cannot support any of the challenges I have given to you. I am content to hold my opinion until such time as you or anyone else can demonstrate the requirements I have made above.   

Please demonstrate for me the following
*That some speakers take longer to "warm up" while others do not, and that it is audible.

People hear it and adjust to it every day, as has been demonstrated by the numerous responses to this post. If YOU can’t hear it so be it. Just accept you can’t and leave it at that: people’s hearing acuity differs.

I’m not impressed with your attempt at putting them in their place.

douglas_schroeder2,357 posts05-31-2020 1:17pmPlease demonstrate for me the following:


Good grief - as peskywabbit has written - it is not up to us to prove to an idiot what is obvious if you had any ears, and you actually listened to different speakers or cables, or indeed anything. We contribute actual experiences to this forum, whereas you contaminate it with drivel.