Did anyone hear the Zu room at CES/THE 2011?


I did. The first time I listened, they were playing the giant $45k (Dominance?) speakers, biamplified with a pair of Pass Labs XA30.5s. I thought they sounded excellent. Then I went back, and wasn't so impressed witht he sound. I saw that they had replaced the Pass with a 2.5 Watt SET amp (I think the internal sub was still powered by a Pass). To me, the life, energy, resolution, and naturalness just wasn't there. At least one other person there who had heard both said he preferred the tube amp, saying it "made him feel more connected to the music." I wanted to say, "No, the king is naked! You're just saying that because you think you're supposed to," but I didn't. I recognize that he may have heard something I didn't. Apparently, others thought the same as him, because they left the tube amp in for the rest of the show. So my question is, was I the only one who thought the Pass sounded better?
honest1
Morning Glory,

Easy boys!-- don't want to upset the applecarts just he did ask for

opinions and I fully understand the speakers I mentioned will /could

mate superbly with other first rate ancillary equipment.

I'm simply stating my observations and my reasoning for not putting them on my prospective lists-and

decisions made with my own music Compilations.

Harbeth, ProAcs and SF Guarneri's at present.

Just sold Big Rockports ( my Shindo amp not quite powerful enough!) before that Avalons, Wilson, SoundLab,

B+W, Stacked Quads,Snell AIIIs,Dahlquist, Klipschorns,Dayton

Wrights, Chartwells/etc.

Good Listening,

Des
Hi Again,

Sorry Thought I should mention what I do consider a fine current well

priced speaker "out there"

Green Mountain Audio

Des
Just for perspective, what rooms did you like at CES/THE? My favorites were Hansen and Tidal.
I found the DeVore room interesting in that he was playing a new, unusual sounding speaker. When playing a certain type of music, I guess you'd call it ragtime maybe? Early 20th century style folk music, they sounded quite realistic, but with other types of music, didn't sound very good at all. I suspect they had colorations that worked well with that type of musical recording, but showed themselves as colorations on other types.
212,

A lot of speakers you have/had.Were the speKers you sold boring?

What front end was on the Dominance?
Yoh Hon, Yes the Tidal Diaceras were letting the music Flow effortlessly the room--I prefer them to the bigger Sunrays-they seemed to envelope the room rather than the Musical experience( latter in the Constellation room)

Hansens-not so much-- I'd vote for the Martens over them-but I would'nt own either- they seem to be pushing the sound out rather than freeflowing--if you get my grift!

The Avalons were their usual refined selves -but after owning Charles Hansens marvellous Ascent II's i'm beginning to think they've gone too smooth and syrupy. I own original SF Guarneris- if you compare these to the newer Mementos- it is like chalk and cheese--they got it right the first time.

The Evolution Acoustics were spectacular-- for $2K a bargain but I'd like to hear them without JTinn's
bag of tricks in the mix-- they sounded far better in that room than they should have!

Sorry to be a Party Pooper but take a listen to the ProAcs particularly the Carbon 6's--my pick for best in
show 2010 CES and the lesser ones this year still at least filled the room and appeared superb in their projection--unlike 90% of the offerings that seemed constipated to deliver any meaningful emotion

The medium Vandersteens I like --but sadly not the Big Red Ones-- once again the constipated syndrome-likewise the Wilson Alexandrias.
On the other hand the Sashas unlike it's predecessors were lively,clean and showing great speed and dynamics

Like I said Green Mountain Audio-- fine products-always engaging when I've heard them

The 1.7 Maggies gotta be best bang for the buck out there-- longevity has it's rewards.

So my pick of the speakers at 2011 LV

The Beta Kondo field Coil.

Good Luck with your quest

Des