Good Entry-Level DAC


So I had a nice California Audio Labs (sort of ) tubed  DAC that I used with my Rotel CD player. It ,made a huge difference to the sound; after getting it, I re-discovered my CDs! 

I moved over to a NAD C516 BEE CD Player (I know, entry level, but that's what I've got) a couple of years ago or three. I found the DAC didn't make any audible difference; so I sold it.

I think the NAD has a pretty good DAC Chip ( 24/192 Cirrus Logic Delta/Sigma DAC, whatever that means). Is there a reasonably priced ( < $1K) DAC that could significantly improve the sound?

Ideas, anyone? 

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The idea that DAC’s don’t get better but only a different sound is just like saying there’s no difference between preamps and amps. Can only speak on the current RME ADI-2 fs to the DAC in my Bluesound Vault 2 and DAC inputs on my Oppo UDP 205 and Cambridge 851C. All these DACs have a clear sonic signature that is indeed different from each other just like the NAD, Sonic Frontiers, Audio Research and ModWright preamps I have owned among others.

What the RME is doing, is extracting information off CD’s or streaming of music I know or thought I knew well. I’m hearing minute things for the first time and yes preamps, speakers and etc. have done the same but not by this margin. I don’t know if it’s the reduction of jitter, crazy low noise floor or just good engineering but it’s not just changing things a little. Agree the only way to know or believe is try in ones own system and fortunately many retailers that sale RME do indeed offer a refund.

Obviously it takes ears that have been trained to listen and equipment that is revealing in the first place. It takes time to dial a system in with proper set up, room treatment speaker placement and etc. so just having expensive equipment doesn’t mean anything as I’m sure most here have heard systems costing far more than one’s own that sound horrible. If the DAC in a NAD is similar in sound quality to a Bluesound, then it’s not even going to be close.
DACs don't extract information off CDs or Streams they convert what's been sent to them. The speakers, room placement and treatments will affect the sound a lot more than the DAC. The OP could also try a newer NAD CD player with the newer 24 bit Wolfson DAC cheaper than some of these outboard DACs. I still haven't seen anything here that would be a SIGNIFICANT  improvement over what he has. Especially if he auditions them in a blind setting. Another thing he has never said what the rest of his system consists of, if it's consumerate with the NAD I wouldn't expect changing a DAC unless it's really crap to make much of a difference.
+1 djones51! Certainly a one-box CD player can be the equal of any transport/DAC combination! A good recommendation for the latest NAD player!
dhjjones,

I run my CD Player (and my Rega RP3) through a Sonographe SC-1 Preamp and a Counterpoint SA12 amp and Cabasse Galiote speakers.

Most of the system's 25-30 years old, but I do like it. I'm upgrading in small pieces. Added a phono preamp last year (Project Tube Box) and had the CAL DAC in for some years....

I'm thinking hard of going with used for another DAC. Are there sellers who'll accept returns?

G

PS- Did you mean 'Commensurate'?


Yes I did, sorry about that. There are dealers who take new returns. I think The Music Room has a return policy on used.