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LFD NCSE MK3

I don’t know anything about electronics, so I would just like for someone to explain to me, based on its internal pictures, what exactly justifies this integrated amplifier’s price tag of $7,350! The parts inside don’t seem to cost more than $1200-1300 combined. Casework is nothing special. I understand that makers have to charge more than what it costs them to produce, but what am I missing here? Everyone raves about it, so its price is justified because it sounds good?

I tried to compare internal pictures of LFD NCSE MK3(https://img.usaudiomart.com/uploads/large/2144793-1dcbef2f-lfd-ncse-mk3-integrated-amplifier.jpg) to those of Belles Aria integrated(https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.powermodules.com%2FewExternalFiles%2FHFC_41...) and Valvet E2SE(https://positive-feedback.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Valvet-Open.jpg). One is a little more than $2,000, and the other is $4,000. Parts-wise, the other two seem to have more parts inside (and quality parts, based on reviews), yet they cost less.

Don’t get me wrong, everyone is free to charge whatever they want. And if I were to audition and like it, I’d probably buy it as well. I just think that I might be overlooking something here, that I’m not experienced yet to be paying attention to, and I don’t wanna dismiss something good in the future because of the same mistake.

On a side note, has anybody compared LFD NCSE MK3 to Belles Aria or Valvet E2SE? On another side note, how do First Watt amps compare to those?
audioinfidel
rossb
185 posts
 
I have just replaced my Ayre AX5 Twenty with an LFD NCSE III.

I thought the Ayre would be my last amplifier, and it really is a superb piece of engineering and a fabulous sounding amplifier. But the plain looking LFD at half the price sounds more musical to me and is a better match for my BBC style Graham speakers.
Of course, aside from the plain looks, there is no remote, no balanced connections, the power output is only 70 watts, and you won't impress your audiophile buddies. It's not for big speakers or big rooms, and if you like a big, airy, hyper-detailed sound you may still prefer something like the Ayre.
But the LFD is the real thing. It is sweet-toned, dynamic, rich sounding and with sympathetic speakers in a smallish room it sounds more musically engaging than anything else I have heard.
audioinfidel OP
20 posts
 
"Unless you’re an engineer or electronics expert, don’t go by layout. Go by sound" - This is exactly what I said above, that I’ll be the first one to buy it, if I like the sound. Let me clarify my original inquiry again: I’m only asking out of curiosity!
audioinfidel OP
20 posts
 
I used to think that amount of parts means everything, and was going to get a Schiit Yggdrasil, but ended up getting a Chord Qutest. In the case of the Qutest, I know where the money went to - FPGA and stuff. Here I was asking for the same, i.e. for someone to point me to that expensive part, or explain to me how this design is amazing because of this or that technology being used.
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ryder
1,690 posts
 
I thought it's the LFD Zero mk3 that looked very bare internally. The NCSE looks a lot better but perhaps not up to the high build of say Pass Labs, Luxman or Accuphase standards. In the end it's the sound that counts but it can be amazing that an amp with bare looking internals can sound stellar in comparison to one that's packed to the brim.
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