Direct Drive vs. Idler Drive vs. Belt drive
chakster, no joke at all. You should review your audio history. The AR XA was a ground breaking turntable. Not only was it less expensive than everything else. It was also better performing and not by a little. It’s only over site was the lack of anti skate. It is in the Museum of Fine Art and one of the 10 best turntables of all time according to Absolute Sound. Looks awful and as Ralph pointed in his post the tonearm is awful. Watch the video and you will never look at an unsuspended turntable again. In fact my Luxman PD-444 is suspended, for the rest of turntables in my arsenal (Denon DP-80, Victor TT-101) i have excellent AT-616 Pneumatic insulators under the plinth. Room Rumble. Oracle , Basis , SME, SOTA, Techdas and others followed ARs advice. Yeah, all those turntables that i don’t like for some reason. |
Very interesting thread--thanks everyone who has participated. For those who wish to explore a newcomer to the idler-type turntable marketplace, I have posted Part 1 of my "review" of the Sempersonus TE-2, TW Acustic Raven 12, Charisma Audio Signature One, WyWires Platinum vinyl playback system over on AC. Hopefully, this link will take you there: https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=171102.msg1810956#new I hope this helps to sustain the discussion. |
The complete "review" now appears on the AC: https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=171102.new#new |
Dear friends: This is something I posted in wbf to a gentleman that was against servos in DD TT because he said that he can hear the damage that servos makes to what he listening through a DD turntables ( as the Technics SP10MK3 or Denon DP100 and the like. ) . Could be interesting to think a little about: """ But things are " critical " for say the least about your " entitled " against servos because the recording LP cutting machines uses DD non-coreless motors as the Technics Sp-02 on the Neumann or the servo controled ( as the Sp-02 ) Parker motor in the Lyrec lathes. In Scully lathes some gentlemans used the MK3 Technics motor. Altivar was other used motor and obviously its own Neumann one and even Denon. So the LPs you listen was recorded with those servos ( not the bidirectional as Denon or JVC and not coreless motors as JVC, Yamaha or Kenwood. ) and even that that kind of " servo intrusion " especially in the low bass range you just can't be aware of it in the BD or idler drive TTs when that " servo intrusion " in case of exist must be appeared any time with any TT spin design, it comes ( according that exist that servo problem. ) rigth from the cutting lathe. So, You can´t be aware of it because just does not exist ( you are not aware of it in BD designs. ) or your room/system has not really and true high resolution. There are no other alternatives down there. Measurements and pure common sense means that your " entitled " servo issue is a misunderstood that you posted and post " over and over through the years. "" Then the LPs are pressed from the cutting lathes that used DD motors with servo control. So why many audiophiles said that through BD/ID TTs the servo " intrusion " does not exist they do not be aware on it when all the LPs where pressed " using servo control motors? Perhaps because what we listen and disturbs to some of us in DD TTs comes not really from the servo control but from other each model design characteristics and not because the servo control. Maybe some of you can share a different point of view on that critical TT issue. Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R. |
