Monster Regret!!

@geoffkait : No. it's no story (s). Google him and lawsuits. I never said it was the owner of BJC. What I said was as a question: that since I didn't remember who the lawyer actually was that I though that it might have been the owner of BJC. I also asked for someone that might remember who the lawyer was.

@roberttdid;  sorry but I disagree with your assessment regarding the cause of ground loops.  Since it is physically impossible to connect all equipment to the same outlet, and most people actually have dedicated lines installed directly to the panel, that negates that argument.  

My experience has been that each and every ground loop I have found/diagnosed and cured was caused by poorly designed equipment that had poor internal ground schemes or poorly designed cables.

Isolating each piece until the actual culprit for the ground loop is found has been successful.  And it had absolutely nothing to do with the outlets or how many.  If ground loops were caused by connecting equipment to different outlets, then everyone would have ground loops all the time and that just isn't the case.

voltage differential on the ground path is the textbook reason.  However, what is causing the voltage difference in the first place?  That is what I was discussing earlier.

Also, there is a balance where companies become the 800 pound gorilla. most companies try hard to protect their patents or "brand".  laws are written and enforced based on the country.  Some are more open than others.  Some companies try hard to force you to use only their products and try to kill competition leaving only themselves as a monopoly.  

Sony, Phillips, and many others tried and failed.  Mostly because technology doesn't sit and wait and other's develop newer technology.

Now CDs are phasing out and streaming is taking over slowly.  But with streaming, you don't own the material anymore.  I'm not sure I like that.  I'm trying to get away from have a monthly payment for everything.  

As I said, Monster made decent products for the money.  I wouldn't consider it high end, but they were okay.

enjoy

You can do an 8 gang outlet, power bars can have 12. All share the same ground connection. You have only illustrated ground hum in your thread, not differential ground induced noise pumping.


The definition of a ground loop is having two point identified as ground that are not at the same potential that are used for signal references. I did not say that multiple outlets is the only cause of ground loops but it if a textbook example of how to create one. Most equipment signal grounds are isolated enough from power grounds that a differential is usually "shorted" via the interconnect.

I have a pair of Emotiva XPR-1's They require a dedicated 20 amp. circuit to reach full potential. Tried them both on a single 15 amp circuit first and then on dedicated 20 amp circuit.Even at low listening levels the dedicated circuit sounded better.Also what is a fellow to do as most power conditioners I can afford only have a 15 amp input. I'll tell you what, plug the suckers into the dedicated 20 amp circuit, like the manufacturer suggests and be done with it. Lol.

Lots of good info on here to consider. I had an AVS2000 for a long time and thought it worked best on the front end equipment and and video gear I placed on it. I did not like it as well on the main amps but also thought it performed well on the sub I had in the room. 

Try one component at a time. I believe there is a "tipping point" as far as trying to add one component too many so your ears will need to pay attention!