Which USB Re Clocker


I have been very happy with my Innuos Zenith Mk 2 for several years. The sound  is excellent and ripping is child's play. I have been interested in adding the Phoenix Re Clocker for a couple of years, but for various reasons, haven't been able to get a demo yet. One of the selling points of the Phoenix by Innuos, is that it can be used between any source and USB DAC.

 Well it also means that any re clocker should work between an Innuos Server and DAC. The one drawback to me is that the Phoenix isn't cheap, at least as far as my budget in retirement is concerned. The Company claims that the Phoenix is more than a Re Clocker, with improved power supplies and other improvements. I don't suppose many of you guys have had the chance to compare the Phoenix with other units. Still any suggestions about other, cheaper Re Clocker units to consider? Particularly if you have had the chance to use it with an Innuos Server, but not much chance of that either. Still any advice is welcome, thanks.

david12
Robertdid , there’s an interview with Innuos design principle by John Darko , smart dude . What you just said is laughable, I find guys like you nothing more then a joke with your suggestions for others what is too expensive , how things should actually work so on and so forth and finally I distinctly heard a jump in performance using a MSB dac maybe I should of used a Denafrips Lol ..


I have to agree with @roberttdid on this. Not that you should necessarily replace your DAC if you like it, but that reclocking the USB isn't, by itself, going to make a difference if the DAC is using an asynchronous USB input with buffering. The DAC is not deriving any timing signal from the USB, so reclocking isn't going to do anything. 

On the other hand, if you are using a good quality digital-to-digital converter and using an interface other than USB between that device and your DAC, then the quality of the timing will make a big difference, and it's quite possible that such a device could have a better (even much better) clock than the DAC that it is feeding. 

It's also quite possible, as @roberttdid stated, that a digital-to-digital converter/reclocker could be reducing noise on the USB connection that is affecting the DAC's SQ. Whether using such a device for this purpose is a better investment than replacing the DAC with one that can better reject this noise directly is a decision that each listener will have to make for themselves. 

I also believe that there are some spectacular sounding DACs that don't necessarily have the best USB implementations. USB technology has evolved much more significantly in the past five years or so  than other aspects of DAC design. There are very likely some state-of-the-art DACs from five or ten years ago that will have less than optimal USB interfaces that could easily benefit from some external help for less than the cost of replacement with a more recent implementation with an updated USB implementation.
@in_shore, perhaps one day it will dawn on you that you are doing nothing but regurgitating what others have said, while clearly not even understand what I have said. I have seen many so-called "smart dudes" spout absolute nonsense in the guise of marketing it is laughable. I will repeat it a third time since you seem to be puffing your chest or something and not paying attention. The phoenix may improve the sound of the ops DAC. As the ops DAC is asynchronous (and we really hope is running in that mode with the appropriate drivers), it won’t be improving the sound from reclocking the USB.

Guys like me actually design this stuff. We know when other guys like us are telling tall tales.
in_shore  464 posts

07-09-2020 9:17pm

Robertdid , there’s an interview with Innuos design principle by John Darko , smart dude . What you just said is laughable, I find guys like you nothing more then a joke with your suggestions for others what is too expensive , how things should actually work so on and so forth and finally I distinctly heard a jump in performance using a MSB dac maybe I should of used a Denafrips Lol ..