Accuphase DP-100 DC-101 Sleeping Giant Or Dinosaur


Why is the top of the line Accuphase DP-100/DC-101 CD/SACD player combo hardly ever mentioned on Audiogon when discussing other top flight players such as EMM, DCS, and Teac Esoteric?
A glowing review of these components appeared in 2001 on Stereophile, while a more cautious review was published in The Absolute Sound in 2000. Virtual silence in the press and on Audiogon discussions came after that. Is the silence due to a failure by AXISS to articulate an effective marketing strategy, or these components have sonic flaws that make them somewhat undesirable or overpriced?
Having heard just several days ago their younger single box brother--the DP-77--and having found in it some relatively serious digital colorations that made its sound resemble somewhat that of a high quality music FM synthesizer, I am more inclined to suspect by extension that perhaps DP-100/DC-101 may not be making it to the top for musical/technical reasons, rather than marketing shortcomings. Any opinions, experiences with this combo?
guidocorona
Of course Ferenc, please do tell us about your experience with your Accuphase combo. Have you been able to compare it with other more recent players? E.G. DCS stack, Esoteric X-01, etc. . .?
Actually, Fatcataudio, the customer support and preselling will end up in a call center in the Phillipines or India!

I agree with the notion that there is room for the Dell model or the Accenture model. This means either direct from the manufacturer sales and support or a total cradle to grave systems and support approach by individual dealers united in a feudal network of sorts. Thus, there is profitable scenario for limited production, hi-end makers and dealers only. Given that restrictions on internet sales are on shaky legal ground due to restraint of trade issues, the opportunity is for the manufacturer to support demonstration/territory dealers only. There are two cases, viz, the dealer that services the territory or who does the demonstration gets the credit for the sale no matter what. So if the client sees the product on-line and buys it on-line from a dealer at zip code xxx, the credit goes to the dealer where the client lives, zip code yyy. If the client has a demonstration at dealer, and buys it online or from another dealer, the demonstrating dealer gets the credit. Demonstrating dealers have the option to then work with each other to refer out of town customers to their local dealer, especially if this is reciprocated. (State sales tax collection issues would be manageable.) However, given the emotional age of most audio manufacturers and dealers, the probability that these enlightened scenarios, that some manufacurers like Accuphase and Sound Labs are trying to support, will manifest for the good of the discerning client, is doubtful at best (for the mainstream) unless the manufacturers not only have sound business practices but have good ability to read the character and integrity of the dealer and create a true dealer community. If dealers do not all hang together, they surely be hung individually, to paraphrase, was it Paine? FATCATaudio is right, the internet is the noose.
Accuphase practice strict territorial separation to hide the fact that their same products will command double the dealer price in Germany than they do, say, in Singapore - full service included. If you live in a country without a dealership, you fall between the cracks, which is extremely frustrating. I have found great support from a California based dealer (Fred of Katli Audio) with all my issues and problems and that why he is getting my business. So yes, the internet can work for dealers as well but it is a different business model.

When it comes to true hi-end stuff, one can either purchase pricey components at a discount (?) from the internet and go through the trials and tribulations at home - or secure the good support of a local dealer. It's everyone's choice but don't assume that option A is cheaper. Far from it - unless you KNOW exactly what to expect. In 99.9% of all cases this isn't so. There are simply too many variables in HiFi that will have a major impact on the audible result.