Alternatives to Brick and Mortar


I didn't want to further derail @millercarbon's Tekton Moab thread, but I think it is a worthwhile topic to discuss how to find speakers that meet our listening tastes, aesthetic tastes, budget, room, etc. Brick and mortar retail is dying because it's becoming very difficult to operate profitably. 

Full disclosure - I own and operate an e-commerce cycling business. For ten years, I also had a brick and mortar operation (multiple locations). The economics are a bit different than audio since our average sale was only in the very low three figures, but it's not that different. We still had bicycles that we sold for over $10K, but the cost of those sales was quite high. Over the ten years we had the stores (which were 4-5 times the national average in size and revenue), we made a profit from the stores in three of those years. Fortunately, our e-commerce business was much more profitable and allowed us to cover those losses. 

Brick and mortar is becoming more expensive due to higher lease rates, higher payroll costs, and competition with other sales channels. To keep a brick-and-mortar sales channel viable, the manufacturer has to offer the dealer a fairly sizable margin (generally 35% to 60%) and have enough sales velocity that the store can cover their expenses. It's pretty rare these days that there are products that fly off the shelves at a specialty audio retailer. 

Our handling costs are a lot lower in our e-commerce operation, but even in this business, the only products we're willing to carry that have less than 40% margins are products we can get 8 turns or more on. This means that the manufacturer has to have plenty of back stock and be able to replenish our inventory quickly, and also means that the product has to have high and consistent sell-through so we can accurately predict our inventory requirements.

For a specialty audio dealer, there are very few products that have high volume. If you think about how much time you've taken up of a dealer, products you've brought home to listen to, etc., versus the products you've actually purchased, it's an awful lot of cost that has to be absorbed by the dealer. I've read countless posts on this forum and others of people that have brought multiple products home from the dealer (or from an e-commerce vendor) only to return it. This costs the dealer (whether brick-and-mortar or e-commerce) a lot. A lot of this returned product has to be sold as open-box or b-stock at considerably less profit, let alone the shipping cost that is often absorbed by the dealer. To stay in business, they have to make enough profit on the product they actually sell to cover their expenses.

For an audio manufacturer, they have to consider the cost vs the value added by having a brick and mortar channel. More and more are deciding they can offer more value to the consumer by keeping the dealer margin in their own coffers. 

My career has resulted in my living in a number of different areas in the country since I've been an audiophile, so I've probably shopped at 25-30 different stores. Very few of these have had listening rooms that did the products justice. In many cases, the rooms were crammed with 5 to 20 different speakers. Even in the shops that catered to high-end budgets, the speakers were not optimally set up. This isn't surprising since the dealer is trying to sell a lot of different models. 

In the more affluent markets, dealers are willing to provide home auditions which helps a lot, but this is expensive for the dealer and they have to count on a reasonable conversion rate. Too many consumers are willing to take advantage of dealers that offer this. I've seen posts from consumers that literally try a dozen or more speakers, or other components. How do they expect the dealer network to survive. 

So what's the alternative? I think for the manufacturer, the best alternative is to do what companies like PS Audio offer. They have a very nice showroom at their facility if you are willing to make the effort. They offer easy returns if you want to purchase a product and aren't happy. And they participate in many audio shows where you can compare their products against many others. By selling direct, they save the considerable dealer margin can cover a lot of customer service costs, including dealing with higher returns and supporting more audio shows.

Sorry for the long post. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas. 
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These problems have always been there. Even back before the internet Stereophile let people know about stuff they'd never find in driving distance. So your choice is be limited by what's nearby, or take a chance on the Stereophile reviewer and try and have it shipped. I tried both back then, usually trying everything local first.  

All during those same early years I was friends with a really good dealer. By really good he had heard an amazing amount of gear and was honest and straightforward about how things sound. I personally compared enough stuff over the years to know he was right. As a result all during those years I bought everything from him, unless he didn't carry it. He had no analog, for example. So because of analog, from back in the 90's I had to learn how to read reviews. 

There's your story. If you are a geed dealer like Stewart then you can earn the business of good audiophiles like me. At the rate good audiophiles like me buy gear you probably only need a couple thousand of us to survive. Good audiophiles like me are one in a hundred. Audiophiles of any stripe are also about one in a hundred. Run the numbers. Now you know why all the successful high end audio stores are in huge cities. Even then its not easy.

It can however be done. I got my glasses last year from a private owner shop, and it was the most I ever spent on glasses, but also the happiest they ever made me. There's a Costco and half a dozen LensCrafter type places all within 10 miles. There's the internet- send your Rx they send your glasses. This guy thrives by being unbelievably excellent. He's a bona fide optometrist who gave me the best most informative exam I ever had, surrounded by staff that personally helps you select quality frames that look good on you. I was blown away.  

That's what you have to do to be a successful high end audio retailer these days. You can't compete on price so don't even try. You can compete on excellence. It just ain't easy. Because still, 1% of 1%. 

That's why I think we can expect to see more and more people doing like Tekton and Raven and going direct.
While I can't think of an alternative for the moment, I do believe that going to a brick and mortar shop, listening to a product you like, and then go home and order same product on line for 2 to 3 percent cheaper is immoral and just plain wrong. It's nothing short of stealing from the brick and mortar shop. IMO.
@mr_m - Yes, I agree. I don't even think it is fair to the dealer (whether brick and mortar or ecomm) to take (or purchase) 2, 3 or more products home knowing ahead of time that you're going to return one or more. I won't ask for a home demo unless I am fairly confident that I'm going to keep it. 

I can't say I haven't made mistakes. There have been a few products over the years that I ended up selling after 6 or 12 months, but I've taken the cost hit for that myself. Having had my own businesses for most of my career, I know how hard it is to make a profit, particularly for small businesses. 

This may not be the most cost effective way to build a system, but I do as much research as I can upfront (often relying on forums like this) and try to listen at shows and fellow audiophiles' systems before wasting the dealer's time and money.

I do understand that many people don't have the financial resources to be able to afford to make purchasing mistakes, but they need to keep in mind that the money they are "saving" is essentially coming out of the dealer's pocket.

If we want brick-and-mortar dealers to survive (and specialty e-comm dealers for that matter), we have to realize they have to be able to make a profit. 
Sure glad car dealerships don't have your guys attitude. You want a test drive? Are you gonna buy? No? Just compare? Then you're stealing from me.  

Sorry. No. 

Its one of the great things about having your own business, maybe the only great thing about it, being able to do business however you want. Not that any of the choices are easy. You have a liberal audition policy you waste a lot of time, waste a lot of sales from gear not on the floor, lose a lot of money from damage. All on the gamble the small minority who actually listen will agree you carry good gear and maybe become a regular. Slim odds. So you have a tight trial policy, or no returns, you have to pose as some kind of guru audio authority and try and cultivate a clientele of people with more money than brains.  

There's a ton of those around so no wonder things are the way they are.
@jaytor wrote: "I’d like to have the opportunity to hear products in a well designed listening environment and most of the dealers in my area, for one reason or another, don’t seem to have been able to pull this off, and many of the products I’d like to hear aren’t available for demonstration near me.

"So what are the alternatives?"

One possible alternative might be, for manufacturers to streamline "audition in your own home".

There are obviously a lot of details to be worked out in finding the "sweet spot" where this is attractive to both customer and manufacturer. For instance, how are the shipping costs distributed, and how are the risks borne?

Jaytor, you are arguably in a unique position - you can see clearly from the perspective of the customer, as well as from the perspective of the businessman. Do you think "audition in your own home" could realistically be viable from both perspectives?

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