Alternatives to Brick and Mortar


I didn't want to further derail @millercarbon's Tekton Moab thread, but I think it is a worthwhile topic to discuss how to find speakers that meet our listening tastes, aesthetic tastes, budget, room, etc. Brick and mortar retail is dying because it's becoming very difficult to operate profitably. 

Full disclosure - I own and operate an e-commerce cycling business. For ten years, I also had a brick and mortar operation (multiple locations). The economics are a bit different than audio since our average sale was only in the very low three figures, but it's not that different. We still had bicycles that we sold for over $10K, but the cost of those sales was quite high. Over the ten years we had the stores (which were 4-5 times the national average in size and revenue), we made a profit from the stores in three of those years. Fortunately, our e-commerce business was much more profitable and allowed us to cover those losses. 

Brick and mortar is becoming more expensive due to higher lease rates, higher payroll costs, and competition with other sales channels. To keep a brick-and-mortar sales channel viable, the manufacturer has to offer the dealer a fairly sizable margin (generally 35% to 60%) and have enough sales velocity that the store can cover their expenses. It's pretty rare these days that there are products that fly off the shelves at a specialty audio retailer. 

Our handling costs are a lot lower in our e-commerce operation, but even in this business, the only products we're willing to carry that have less than 40% margins are products we can get 8 turns or more on. This means that the manufacturer has to have plenty of back stock and be able to replenish our inventory quickly, and also means that the product has to have high and consistent sell-through so we can accurately predict our inventory requirements.

For a specialty audio dealer, there are very few products that have high volume. If you think about how much time you've taken up of a dealer, products you've brought home to listen to, etc., versus the products you've actually purchased, it's an awful lot of cost that has to be absorbed by the dealer. I've read countless posts on this forum and others of people that have brought multiple products home from the dealer (or from an e-commerce vendor) only to return it. This costs the dealer (whether brick-and-mortar or e-commerce) a lot. A lot of this returned product has to be sold as open-box or b-stock at considerably less profit, let alone the shipping cost that is often absorbed by the dealer. To stay in business, they have to make enough profit on the product they actually sell to cover their expenses.

For an audio manufacturer, they have to consider the cost vs the value added by having a brick and mortar channel. More and more are deciding they can offer more value to the consumer by keeping the dealer margin in their own coffers. 

My career has resulted in my living in a number of different areas in the country since I've been an audiophile, so I've probably shopped at 25-30 different stores. Very few of these have had listening rooms that did the products justice. In many cases, the rooms were crammed with 5 to 20 different speakers. Even in the shops that catered to high-end budgets, the speakers were not optimally set up. This isn't surprising since the dealer is trying to sell a lot of different models. 

In the more affluent markets, dealers are willing to provide home auditions which helps a lot, but this is expensive for the dealer and they have to count on a reasonable conversion rate. Too many consumers are willing to take advantage of dealers that offer this. I've seen posts from consumers that literally try a dozen or more speakers, or other components. How do they expect the dealer network to survive. 

So what's the alternative? I think for the manufacturer, the best alternative is to do what companies like PS Audio offer. They have a very nice showroom at their facility if you are willing to make the effort. They offer easy returns if you want to purchase a product and aren't happy. And they participate in many audio shows where you can compare their products against many others. By selling direct, they save the considerable dealer margin can cover a lot of customer service costs, including dealing with higher returns and supporting more audio shows.

Sorry for the long post. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas. 
128x128jaytor
The current pandemic situation has to be particularly challenging for manufacturers that rely on being able to demonstrate products, and for retailers in the same situation. This is certainly likely to accelerate the demise of many brick-and-mortar audio stores, making it even harder to audition high(er)-end audio products.

When I started this thread, I was assuming we'd get past Covid-19 sometime in the next 6 to 12 months, and I was really wondering about our options when it's safer to start socially interacting and travelling again.

I don't really understand the thinking of hotel managers that are charging ridiculous amounts to host audio shows. Yeah, they have to move some furniture around, but it has the potential to fill every room for several days over a weekend - let alone fill the restaurants and bars after hours.

I used to attend CES every year in the late 90's, and really enjoyed spending a day at Alexis Park where all the high-end manufacturers were exhibiting, but my employer at the time was covering the tab. I was thinking of attending Axpona or Rocky Mountain this year (pre Covid), but the rates the host hotels were charging were insane. I can't imagine how much they are charging for demo rooms.

Perhaps hotels will be a bit hungrier for this business post-Covid and will be more reasonable. 

I like the idea of local audio clubs hosting vendors. Our local club has done this on occasion, but generally for tech talks - not demonstrations. Finding a suitable venue for an audio demo can be challenging - particularly one that is large enough to handle more than a small number of listeners.
@jayton wrote: "I like the idea of local audio clubs hosting vendors."

I think that would be great fun for the audio club members, but not a viable sales model. They would love to have you come and show off your stuff and listen to them talk about their stuff.

Audio clubs tend to have a group-think thing going on, which is dominated by the alphas in the club. And the alphas will see a manufacturer showing up and professing expertise as an outsider directly challenging their status. So the alphas have an incentive to find fault with what you are doing.

In my opinion.

Duke
I couldn't agree with you more. In the old days I worked for a company that sold systems starting at $399 for speakers, turntable cartridge, and receiver. To be a dealer today you need to stock $120,000 speakers, 50K amps.....
Are there any out of state mail order companies that won't charge sales tax?

It seems Amazon charges no matter what.
It depends on how much business we sell in each state.  There is a threshold where you have to pay sales tax when you cross a certain limit.  Thus, the smaller the retailer, the more likely you are to get away without paying sales tax.  

With the exception of OK and PA ($10K is threshold), you have to sell more than $100K in a state to have to pay sales tax in it.  There are a few that are higher.  

This means there is no chance that large entities like Amazon have a hope of not paying taxes AND since they operate a marketplace, they also collect tax on third party sales as many states require this.