Soundstage, layering and tube differences


Within tube types, say el34’s, can anyone explain why one brand of tube like SED C’s have deep layered soundstaging and another, such as the Mullard reissue el34’s ,are more 2D? I just replaced my 10 year old SED’s with the Mullards ( which still need burn-in), but they are not nearly as 3D in my amps and are reported to be such.
Do some tubes resolve the actual recorded room acoustics better or is it a matter of harmonic distortion giving the illusion of soundstaging and 3 dimensionality??
jim94025
you call burn in whatever you want

any electrical device, connection, circuit, will ’settle in’ over some time...whether it is seconds, minutes, hours, days... it has to do with physics of matter, electrical flow, heat/heat dissipation

w.r.t. tubes, they definitely have different sonic characteristics (frequency, amplitude, and phase differences)... not to mention your equipment interacting with the tube (driver and buffer circuits, components within those circuits), transformers, power supplies... each design/component operates as a system... nothing works in isolation
you call burn in whatever you want

any electrical device, connection, circuit, will ’settle in’ over some time...whether it is seconds, minutes, hours, days... it has to do with physics of matter, electrical flow, heat/heat dissipation

w.r.t. tubes, they definitely have different sonic characteristics (frequency, amplitude, and phase differences)... not to mention your equipment interacting with the tube (driver and buffer circuits, components within those circuits), transformers, power supplies... each design/component operates as a system... nothing works in isolation


Well said.
"Tubes need zero burn-in...zero." ????      Don’t know your opinion of Brent Jessee (one of the most respected names in NOS tubes), but- here are just a few sentences (verbatim), from a letter that he includes, when you receive tubes purchased from him: "New tubes need a break-in period before they can exhibit their true sonic character when used in audio circuits.      Preamp tubes especially benefit from a good break-in.      This period may vary widely, but NOS vintage tubes usually need at least 48 hours of use, sometimes up to 100 hours.      New current production tubes need 24-48 hours typically.      Good break-in can be accomplished by either leaving your tube unit turned on for 2 days in a no signal condition, or you can just enjoy the tubes for several hours each evening and they will be broken in after several weeks."        An opinion from another highly regarded (personally, at least) source: https://tctubes.com/power-tube-testing.aspx      Upscale burns theirs in for 72 hours, before testing: https://upscaleaudio.com/pages/test-equipment interesting:      https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=jwmDf5bSRMQ